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India to sell BrahMos missile to Vietnam
The Asian Age, India ^ | Sep 20, 2011 | Sridhar Kumaraswami

Posted on 09/20/2011 7:30:25 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

India to sell BrahMos missile to Vietnam

Sep 20, 2011 - Sridhar Kumaraswami | DC

The BrahMos Aerospace —the Indo-Russian joint venture that has developed the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile — is keen to sell the missile to Vietnam with which India is developing a strong strategic relationship, sources have confirmed.

However, the Indian government’s approval will have to be taken for any such acquisition. Sources also confirmed that Vietnam is already on a list of about 15 “friendly countries” — that was decided by a joint Indo-Russian supervisory council — to whom the BrahMos missile can be sold.

“Informal talks are on but no concrete proposal has been made as yet,” a source who did not want to be identified, told this newspaper. “Any acquisition of the BrahMos missile will be of immense value to Vietnam and will boost its defence preparedness,” sources said.

So far, the BrahMos missile has not been sold to any third country although a few have already evinced interest in acquiring it.

In a move that signalled the importance of strategic ties between India and Vietnam in the wake of increased Chinese military assertion in Asia, defence secretary Shashi Kant Sharma had also recently begun an official visit to Vietnam. India is set to offer naval facilities for training and capacitybuilding to Vietnam.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: brahmos; brahmosmissile; china; india; russia; vietnam
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1 posted on 09/20/2011 7:30:33 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Blame all this crap on the source... RINO Dwight D. Eisenhower. He sold WAY TOO MANY scientific breakthroughs to these pissants in the fifties.


2 posted on 09/20/2011 7:33:35 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

One target - China.


3 posted on 09/20/2011 7:36:51 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: ThomasMore
Blame all this crap on the source... RINO Dwight D. Eisenhower. He sold WAY TOO MANY scientific breakthroughs to these pissants in the fifties.

1) Huh? Blame WHAT? What's wrong with this?

2) The Brahmos is based entirely on Russian technology, which would have been hard for Eisenhower to give to India.

4 posted on 09/20/2011 7:38:02 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I said years ago that India was going to develop itself as a regional counterbalance to China. This is just another piece of evidence for that thesis.

We would be wise to court India, instead of driving her away.


5 posted on 09/20/2011 7:40:27 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: ThomasMore

India is my company’s biggest customer..........


6 posted on 09/20/2011 7:40:59 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

We are.........


7 posted on 09/20/2011 7:41:39 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I wonder if we are starting to see the development of the “central powers”, of China, Pakistan, and North Korea, against the “triple entente” of India, Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, etc. A crude mirror of the situation before World War I.

This would be yet another parallel, such as how the “battleship (dreadnought) race” has a parallel with the current race in submarines.


8 posted on 09/20/2011 7:43:09 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Nice missile, brah.


9 posted on 09/20/2011 7:44:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Vamos a Brahmos!...........


10 posted on 09/20/2011 7:46:53 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Red Badger

Dumb statement on my part. Next time I should read the full thread.


11 posted on 09/20/2011 7:49:40 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: stylecouncilor

Remember the Chams ping....


12 posted on 09/20/2011 8:01:23 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: ThomasMore

Why is every one so impressed with what is little more than a product longer range Talos ? RIM-8

In case one might be worried that the US navy has been caught sleeping.. look at the GQM-163 Coyote Target drone which we are using train against super sonic wave top attacks.


13 posted on 09/20/2011 8:07:56 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: ThomasMore

One of those scientific breakthroughs was not supersonic cruise missiles. We have yet to develop them. Clintoon shutdown all R&D in missile systems in his Admin.

We are SOOOO far behind. Even little Israel had produced higher tech missiles than the new Amerika.


14 posted on 09/20/2011 8:11:04 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

Please read above post. the US is not in any way behind there are reasons for each type of missile.

to get that HIGH speed of a ram jet missile you give up some other things

Ramjet systems like Brahmos have less range then say Tomahawk

and do I doubt have multi attack option like Harpoon (self search at a given way point with course correction)

This is much like in the early 80s when Exocet got so much press from the Falklands war, it looked to be a war winner but in reality was and is far less capable than the Harpoon


15 posted on 09/20/2011 8:24:00 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Bidimus1

Well, in modern environment both Harpoon and Tomahawk are pretty outdated.
Too vulnerable for advanced countermeasures.


16 posted on 09/20/2011 8:43:29 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

well, China supplies Pakistan with its jets/missile and nuke tech. Never doubted India would take that lying down. Arming Vietnam with anti ship supersonic cruise missiles is just what India would do esp since China is building its naval arm.
This sale could be very significant and a not-so-subtle poke at China by India.


17 posted on 09/20/2011 8:58:49 AM PDT by coldphoenix
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To: coldphoenix

Yes, and not only that, but just like China needs oil, so does India. And there’s oil in SE Asia.


18 posted on 09/20/2011 9:12:27 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

and the Russians play Durak. On the one hand courting an alliance with China as a counterbalance to the US ... on the other hand making sure China enemies to worry about.


19 posted on 09/20/2011 9:20:48 AM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: cunning_fish

o more so than Brahmos and I think less actually (zig zak, multi strike)

A part of the equation that most seem to not see, all that range and speed are not really that useful with out a sensor platform that can “see” that far.

This is a classic soviet/russian style weapon system See (moskit), Fast and mostly straight. Not saying it cant be effective but not a panacea. High speed means less maneuver and short time for target to react works both ways less time for missile to deal with counter measures, next gen of DD’s (Zumwalt) may even have Rail Guns in near future

As for the high speed sea skimmer
counter measure google SEARAM

For an effective strike at sea, against a defended target like a US CVN group one would either need MASSIVE numbers
or complete surprise.

The counter strike from a CVN is of course multi-phased

Harpoon for mid range high speed attack, or tomahawk for a long range missile attack. With option for further close in work with Maverick.

Defense wise the Hawk eye platform as a rule will allow for much earlier detection of inbound weapons allowing for better endangerment by CVN group

F/A 18’s with Harm to deal with air defense radar
Harpoon from Air or Sea for mid range high speed attack
Tomahawk for long range attack


20 posted on 09/20/2011 9:22:05 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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