“People who don’t want the gov forcing faggot “marriage” down our throats are not statists nor do we look to the “state” to define marriage. It’s a question of keeping the normal, natural, God-made status quo.”
Of course not. Freepers are a cut above the masses, that may sound elitist but it is generally true. But many have been conditioned to think that marriage comes from the state instead of their faith. If you think this isn’t the case, Then I reckon we disagree.
“It is the state recognition of Natural Law.”
Sure. But it hasn’t been doing that for a long time. It has usurped the role of faith, at least in recent times, just like it has with education and charity.
“I consider you a good freeper but your libertarianism is silly and utopian and doesn’t do anyone a darn bit of good.”
I consider you a good Freeper too, and appreciate all the stuff you post about the homosexualist agenda. I have added the keyword “homosexualagenda” to many threads concerning it, and am thankful you and others take care of a ping list for it. I definately think the homosexual agenda is real, a weapon used by marxists.
I don’t think the state is ever going to remove itself from the institution. I do think that marriage would be better off if it did, because I know that the statists and homosexualists are going to use that involvement to punish folks who don’t buy the impossibility of “gay marriage”.
I voted for the marriage amendment in my state. I would do so again. But I will never agree that wanting folks to define marriage with their faith is libertarianism of any stripe. The big L’s are mostly pro-gay marriage as far as I can see, which is completely inconsistant with their usual views as I understand them anyhow, because of the gubberment’s power to punish those who don’t buy into the sham.
And a piece of paper from the state isn’t the deciding factor of determining if two people are married. Should the state recognize marriage? Probably, it would be fine in an utopia with no statists and homosexualists who will twist that recognition into socialist control of the culture.
Freegards
Thank you for your reply -
Libertarianism is utopian because it would only work in a society of people who all voluntarily choose to act in a moral way. Even a small percentage of non-morally compliant people would wreck it all. And most libertarians really are into their vices. A libertarian society with people indulging in the vices they want legalized would quickly turn into a veritable hell on earth.
IOW it would only work if fallen human nature were not what it is...
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2779001/posts
The Republican Party Must Never Endorse Same Sex Marriage
self | September 15, 2011 | little jeremiah
I detail some of the LP’s offficial platform on moral issues, as well as some other stuff like quotes from wise men that some may find useful. Unfortuantely my lack of formatting ability cuts down the readability.