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To: quantim
She had potential.

She's actually right about HPV vaccine why mandatory. Even Rush Limbaugh not criticizing her about her HPV assessment. What's the mortality rate of cervical cancer? There were 759 women died of cervical cancer in 2008. Compare to how many people getting killed in vehicular accident?

9 posted on 09/18/2011 9:12:17 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: hamboy
Even Rush Limbaugh not criticizing her about her HPV assessment.

Rush did call her out when she claimed Gardesil causes mental retardation. There was no reason for Bachmann to head down that road.

13 posted on 09/18/2011 9:19:00 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: hamboy
What's the mortality rate of cervical cancer?

The National Cancer Institute reports that about 12000 women a year are diagnosed with cervical cancer in the US; about 4000 a year die from it. So that is about a 33% mortality rate in the US. Worldwide, about 450,000 are diagnosed each year, and about 233,000 die, so that is closer 50%. Cervical cancer is the #2 cause of cancer deaths for women in the world.

16 posted on 09/18/2011 9:37:12 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: hamboy
I think allot more women die of it a year than that. I find this entire issue foolish.

Perry made a decision based on the fact that Gardisil would protect a large percentage of people exposed to HPV from getting genital warts and cervical cancer. I urge you to google ‘genital warts photos’ and look at what HPV can do.

He decided that the executive order would force insurance companies and more importantly Medicare to pay the cost of a very expensive drug. The drug had been thoroughly tested and had a stellar performance record with very few side effects, none of which where mental retardation. If he had made the vaccine ‘recommended’ with an ‘opt in’ it would NOT be covered by insurance.

I urge you to consider what the effects would be of a daughter of yours falling in love with a young man who may have been exposed to HPV and not shown symptoms, as most people do not, they marry and he spreads the disease to her. She years later is diagnosed with cervical cancer and like more than a third of women with this form if cancer, she dies a terrible and painful death. Three shots at twelve years of age would prevent this type of horror.

They are also giving It to boys now. I will not hesitate to have my sons vaccinated against this disease.

There may be some truth to the idea that we are over vaccinated, but if you have ever lost a child, you would do anything you could to prevent disease from taking another. We now have the reintroduction of many previously eradicated diseases thanks to rampant third world illegal immigration and parents who believe more in the idea of toxicity than in the reality of killer diseases.

19 posted on 09/18/2011 9:58:28 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: hamboy

Foolish statements on all counts. Too many here watching for you to play so loose with the facts.

Perry had a very similar situation to Michele’s “foot in mouth” at the last Texas Governor debate where Deb Medina self destructed not knowing when to shut up admitting she was a libertarian Truther. Maybe Michele watched that debate too many times training for these debates and got scared and foolish or then again she may just be angling for Mutt’s VP.


24 posted on 09/18/2011 10:18:18 PM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: hamboy; SeekAndFind; Kleon; DRey; Lazlo in PA; ohioman; quantim; EDINVA; WKTimpco; mazz44; ...
She's actually right about HPV vaccine why mandatory. Even Rush Limbaugh not criticizing her about her HPV assessment. What's the mortality rate of cervical cancer? There were 759 women died of cervical cancer in 2008. Compare to how many people getting killed in vehicular accident?

Science is being thrown out the window to cheer lead for the vaccine!

Gardisal may protect against four of fifteen HPV viruses that can cause cancer.

Gardasil has been aggressively promoted, often as giving life time immunity, but data as of 2009 only demonstrated effectiveness for five years. In fact, there has not been a chance to study long term side effects of the vaccine.

Gardasil does not eliminate the need for PAP smears. PAP smears on a timely basis detect early pre-cancerous changes that can be treated. PAP smears are recommended every 1-5 years, starting 3 years after one's first sexual contact or at age 21.

Gardasil is approved for girls as young as nine years old, despite the fact that the youngest girls participating in clinical trials were 11-12 years old.

A recent study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, also questioned the general effectiveness of Gardasil.

The serious adverse effects reported through VAERS include: Guillain-Barré Syndrome, seizures, blood clots, anaphylactic shock, paralysis, coma, and death. These are very serious side effect to trade off for possible protection against some of the causes of cervical cancer.

Serious questions have also raised about risk benefit ratio in the US, and the accuracy and quality of information available to parents who are making the decision to get their children vaccinated.

Unfortunately the CDC, along with the FDA and EPA have had their missions severely compromised by political agendas, and one is wise not to take their cheer leading for Gardasil as the final word. Just take a look at what passed for science in the mandated replacement of CFC inhalers with HFA inhalers.
40 posted on 09/19/2011 5:19:22 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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