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Do You Know What the Constitution Really Says?
Townhall.com ^ | September 14, 2011 | Rebecca Hagelin

Posted on 09/15/2011 9:07:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
Imagine if Progressives were held back by "rigid ideas of what government could or could not do"!


21 posted on 09/15/2011 10:07:03 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: appalachian_dweller
What are the 5 freedoms guaranteed by the 1st Amendment.

Freedom of Speech. Freedom of the press. Freedom of peaceable assembly. Freedom from the establishment of a religion. Freedom to practice one's religion. Freedom to petition the government for redress of grievances.

That's six, not five, and I'm right.

Your question is posed wrongly.

Try reading the Constitution some time.

22 posted on 09/15/2011 10:12:00 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Wolfie
Whatever 9 lifetime political appointees say it says.

That's their opinion.

If we let them get away with it - meaning, we don't take steps to overrule them through the other branches - then We, the People will have concurred. But it is that concurrence that makes it so. The most important words in the Constitution are not, "We, the Justices of the Supreme Court . . . do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." It's "We, the People. . ."

In some cases - in fact, in a lot of cases - I find the logic and decisions of the Supreme Court to be compelling, and so I - as one of We, the People - agree with what they say the Constitution says. In a few high-profile cases I disagree. If enough people agree with me (and not with them), then we have the ultimate power to 'interpret' the Constitution through the ballot box.

Unfortunately, for a lot of "We, the People" the faded words aren't worth the parchment they cover. But that is our fault, not the justices. They're just politicians who are getting away with it.
23 posted on 09/15/2011 10:12:13 AM PDT by Phlyer
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To: appalachian_dweller
BTW, here's the text of the First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

If you want to be pedantic, it protects three freedoms and two rights, and imposes a restriction upon the government.

24 posted on 09/15/2011 10:16:24 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Kaslin
That's a very interesting picture, and it carries with it an implication that those who are to one side try to uphold the Constitution, while those to the other side do not.

That's a good question to ask, and like a horse race there can be real differences of opinion on it.

One of the interesting corollaries to that spread is that most of the more modern presidents are on the side of trampling the Constitution while most of the earlier ones are on the other side - with a notable exception of Reagan.

Unfortunately, if that is the true spectrum being displayed, then Lincoln belongs well over on the other side. And while I'd put George W. Bush well in the midst of traditional democrats like FDR and Kennedy, there is no way he is more to the 'trample' side than LBJ. (Lots of subtle things in this image, like GWB standing with the tramplers but looking at the respecters - a great thumbnail of his presidency.)

Thanks for sharing it.
25 posted on 09/15/2011 10:22:38 AM PDT by Phlyer
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To: Lady Jag

His paintings are awesome


26 posted on 09/15/2011 10:26:25 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: ArrogantBustard
That's six, not five, and I'm right.

Your question is posed wrongly.

Try reading the Constitution some time.

Out of curiosity, are you a prick all the time, or just when you can hide behind the anonymity of the internet?

27 posted on 09/15/2011 10:28:11 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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To: cc2k

No, it is NOT BS.

Perhaps, though, I could have worded my statement better. You read it inverted - i meant that Most-to-all ‘rats don’t understand the constitution, but, giving a morsel, perhaps there are a small few who do. It goes hand-in-hand with members of the ‘rat party.


28 posted on 09/15/2011 10:28:45 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: tnlibertarian
What you see is what you get, bubba.

Out of curiosity, do you throw vulgar insults at strangers in real life, or only behind the anonymity of the internet?

29 posted on 09/15/2011 10:36:31 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I call 'em as I see 'em.

Judging by your handle, it's the reaction you're trying for, anyway. I should've recognized the personality flaw sooner, and I wouldn't have fed it.

30 posted on 09/15/2011 10:51:52 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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To: Kaslin

I know a deeply principled, free market conservative guy that once insisted that the postal system shouldn’t be run by the Federal Government because it was unconstitutional for it to be involved in such a tast. He went on and on on this theme - very thoughtful and very principled.

Then I told him the Constitution specifically empowers Congress to pass laws regarding establishing post offices.

Just shows to go you: for too many folks of all political stripes, being “principled” means turning your brain off at the door. :-)


31 posted on 09/15/2011 10:56:10 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: tnlibertarian
Hey, n00b, do you have any comments on the facts being discussed?

No?

Didn't think so.

Tells me everything I need to know about you.

32 posted on 09/15/2011 10:59:14 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: tnlibertarian; appalachian_dweller
BTW, are you and that appalachian guy actually the same person using two different screen names? The sign-up dates on the two profile pages are within a week of each other.
33 posted on 09/15/2011 11:02:09 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

So, the answer to my original question is ‘all the time’. Thanks.


34 posted on 09/15/2011 11:03:02 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
BTW, are you and that appalachian guy actually the same person using two different screen names?

No, but that is an interesting coincidence. Oh, and he's right, it's 5.

35 posted on 09/15/2011 11:06:06 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

1. Press
2. Religion
3. Speech
4. Assembly
5. Redress of grievances

You counted freedom of religion twice. Now go away.


36 posted on 09/15/2011 11:09:29 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Stop the name calling and learn to count.


37 posted on 09/15/2011 11:13:23 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: Durus
Anyone can break any law, that doesn't invalidate the law

Well said. The Constitution, despite some laughable Scotus decisions, still means what it says.

38 posted on 09/15/2011 11:15:52 AM PDT by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failures of Central Planning.)
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To: Kaslin

OBAMA:
“...What kind of country would this be
if this chamber had voted down Social Security or Medicare
just because it violated some rigid idea about what government could or could not do?...”


39 posted on 09/15/2011 11:18:11 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a small monthly donor.)
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To: Stepan12
Suppose someone mentions that gold and silver are money and paper is not supposed to be money under our Constitution. That the fiat currency we now hold is absolutely illegal. What will be the reaction from the Liberals and even many Conservatives to that?

Perhaps to challenge you site a reference.

40 posted on 09/15/2011 11:19:24 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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