Why Hasn't Sarah Palin Followed Up on Her Crony Capitalism Claim Against Rick Perry?

[Finny]

On post #148 on this thread, ncburt wrote to rintense: Leftist trolls like you love to name call !

This from the same guy who later calls Rintense a "deranged Perry hater." [^)

LOLOL!!! Stop! Yer killin' me! {^)) It's just too rich!!! Hey ncal, do you have your own sitcom yet? {^)

[rintense]

Start doing your research instead of having your head up Perry's arse:

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and New York Sen. Hillary Clinton are deadlocked 44 - 44 percent in a test of the Florida 2008 presidential front-runners, but have added to their party primary leads, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

Sen. Clinton's lead over her nearest Democratic rival, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, is 29 points and Giuliani's margin over second-place GOP candidate, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, is 11 points, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.

In other possible matchups in the 2008 presidential race in Florida:

• Giuliani tops Obama 47 - 38 percent and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards 46 - 42 percent;
• Clinton beats Arizona Sen. John McCain 45 - 40 percent, Thompson 46 - 40 percent and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 48 - 38 percent;
• Edwards tops McCain 42 - 39 percent, Thompson 44 - 36 percent and Romney 47 - 33 percent;
• McCain beats Obama 42 - 39 percent;
• Obama beats Thompson 43 - 39 percent and Romney 44 - 36 percent.

[rintense]

Yeah, she blew it so much that The Great One, Mark Levin, reposted it on his facebook page.

[rintense]

From here

[rintense]

:)

[Diogenesis]

She gets the best polling results because she IS FIT
to be POTUS, unlike the RINOs.

[bert]

Lest ye forget and get bogged down in the hype de jour......

(I am for Cain but Perry needs defending from the hyperbolic crap)

Palin is not a candidate except in the delusional minds of many

Thoughts on Texas and Perry.....
To win over Freepers for Perry, I think a tactic might be to not concentrate on selling the steak, but sell the sizzle. The steak is Rick Perry, the sizzle is Texas. To separate the sizzle is to demean the steak.
In many respects, all things considered, Texas can be boiled down to a state of mind.
Texas is America, but Texas is different. Texas has different beginnings that set it apart. Texas has founding fathers of it’s own. America today needs the concepts that caused and allowed those refugees from across America to gather in Texas and start a nation from scratch. Texas is immense and diverse. By appealing to what makes a basic Texan and sets them apart from mere Americans, A reminder or two about who they are and who Rick Perry is could be telling. Texas is not ordinary. The Governor of Texas is not ordinary. The cries of RINO are trumped by Texas soul.
Rick Perry is an Aggie, a genuine dyed in the wool Texan. He is the product of the Texican revolution led by a diverse group of opportunity seeking patriots from the United States who would not stand for the tyrant Santa Anna. They did not abide a ruler that took a perfectly good Mexican Constitution and trashed it. They were an ad hoc conglomeration. They more or less congealed around the leadership of Sam Houston and others to disallow the tyrant to rule them across the river in Texas. Rick Perry is the progeny of those brave men and women as he casts off the tyranny of those in Washington who everyday trash the American constitution. He stands in opposition to a President who would take federal control of his state.
Everyone knows of the Alamo and the stand of a few brave souls, but there were equally dedicated group that died at Goliad a few days later and then there was a great victory at San Jacinto in modern day Houston where the Mexican army was slaughtered. There were some military men leading the troops, but the troops were ordinary men who took up arms to defeat tyranny. The survivors of the first war against Santa Anna are the very soul of Texas. Their spirit and grit and determination and dedication are the very bedrock of Texas.
It is said by some that the battle at San Jacinto was won as the result of Santa Anna’s mid afternoon dalliance with the indentured mulatto girl Emily Morgan, known to history as the Yellow Rose of Texas. The Men of Texas memorialized her a few years later as they fought for the Confederacy in the “Yellow Rose of Texas”. The song is part of the essence of Texas. Here are several versions that convey the feeling and power of that essence
The song is interpreted by many….
A classic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoPQqPJ7fbQ&feature=player_embedded
A modern view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izz0_qEl_-E&NR=1
A different classic view
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=yellow+rose+of+texas+lyrics&mid=ECA497DF0960C7836E18ECA497DF0960C7836E18&view=detail&FORM=VIRE5
It is this essence, the force of historical precedent, that Perry conveys.
There is another song that conveys the Texas soul. It does not have the deep historical roots but it nevertheless is Texas. There are many different versions by lots of artists. The ballad is from the Texas soul
Waltz across Texas
A classic by ordinary…….with fiddle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHrxc3D03DQ&feature=related
A classic by the best of the best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWu8Fz49hUM&NR=1

To merely watch and listen will be a glance into a window on the state. To listen to the different interpretations, and there are many on You Tube, is to develop a feel for the Texas essence.
It is this essence, the force of historical Texas precedent that Perry conveys. It transcends the petty conservative squabbles over this or that issue on which people label themselves as advocates. It trumps the infamous RINO label so treasured by many.
Rick Perry is pitted against Mitt Romney, the governor of Massachusetts, capital, Boston, Greater Boston is 4.5 million people. It is the only metro area in Massachusetts of such size
Rick Perry was Governor of Texas…… Greater Houston is 5.4 million folks, Dallas Fort Worth is 6.4 million and San Antonio is 2.2 million. Even the western metro area of El Paso exceeds at 650,000 exceeds any smaller than Boston Massachuttes area.
In spite of the fact there are several large populated cities, Texas is an agricultural, make that great agricultural, state. Texas has cotton fields that exceed the size of some states. The city population has a rural flavor even though they are decidedly citified. Rick Perry Went to Texas A&M, An Aggie, A farmer? no a rancher. There are tremendous areas where cattle are raised. There is a ranch in Texas bigger than Rhode Island or Delaware. These are people of the land who produce incomprehensible quantities of stuff to eat and fibers to wear. They do what they do by using the leading edge technology applied by Texas A&M. They are the best in the world at what they do and are far, very far from being bumpkins. Rick Perry is evolved from these roots. (Texas also has major league seafood producers, but I digress)
The roads in the Bay state are falling apart and a third are said to be in poor condition. The cost of repairs to vehicles is in effect a tax, a bad road tax. The governor Romney and others are unable to do the simple task of keeping the roads up. Meanwhile, the roads in Texas are good to excellent and there are far more miles than in the state up north. We must not be guilty of giving Gov Perry the total credit for the excellence of the Texas roads, from interstates and city freeways down to the thousands of miles of well designed and paved farm roads, but he administered the state that developed and maintained the excellence.
There are many other points that can be made about many different aspects of governance and aspects of ordinary life, but the status of the roads is an indicator that carries the principle. The roads are an indicator of excellence and stewardship. The bad roads are also an indicator of the inability to cope or purposeful disregard and perhaps priorities that are misplaced.
Being Governor of Texas requires a much vaster vision than being governor of Massachusetts. The vision required for governing Texas and that actually provided by Governor Rick Perry compared to that of Governor Romney is overwhelming.
Massachuttes was. Texas is

[cripplecreek]

Whatever

[McGruff]

I prefer The Quitter™

As opposed to Rick Perry who went out campaigning for corporate cash after the last debate instead of going home to take care of the wild fire situation in Texas?

[Lakeshark]

Perry’s district aide, saying: “Rick thinks it’s important that conservative Texans who have traditionally voted in the Democratic Party not vote in the Republican Party simply because they want to vote for a conservative presidential candidate.” Gore, Garison said, appears to be a candidate who can bring the party back to “mainstream America.”

Gore was a flaming lib by 1988 and had been for three or four years. For someone to argue now that he was a "conservative democrat" in 1988 is naive at best, but most likely disingenuous.

His ACU ratings were very low for 86-88, exactly what I said earlier, go ahead, check them out for yourself. He went from conservative democrat as a congresscritter (meaning he was pro-life), to flaming lib as a senator, also becoming pro-abort.

As I said earlier, either Perry was not aware of his record (naive), or simply didn't care and supported him anyway. Either way it's not good for your candidate.

Spinning that Gore was conservative is simply that........spinning with no facts to back you up.

[LibLieSlayer]

Quit calling me delusional... I have been civil to you always... stop with the personal attacks please.

LLS

[bert]

I’m sorry..... I didn’t mean you. Really

[Windflier]

I don’t think she’s going to get a mulligan from most people, especially women. She really jumped the shark and proved that she’s not fit to be POTUS.

Oh, can the drama, would you? Not fit to be president because of one charged statement? Take a chill pill already.

This isn't the earth-shattering, viral news story you're making it out to be. We few on FR are furiously debating it, but most voting Americans are probably unaware of what even went on in the debates, let alone what others had to say about it.

[Lakeshark]

He should've switched to the Republican party long before, run as a Republican, and NEVER been elected. Mmm-hmmm.

Another hyperbole filled snark. You would do a lot better without those fwiw, it's not that necessary.

I have no problem with him switching, I never suggested that was a bad thing. I do have a problem with the Perry machine (and his supporters) pretending Gore was a conservative in 1988, when it's so easy to prove that he was a flaming liberal years before 1988 (as I believe I have done through his ACU ratings). It's disingenuous at best.

I'm also saying that his record is not as fully conservative as you Perry supporters are saying, that he is closer to Mitt/RINO status than any of the declared candidates. He is a mix at best, pro-life, pro-gun, generally pro-business amongst other things for positives. His pro-business record is stained with his fund raising pay to play attitudes that so many have linked to (crony capitalism), the Gardisil episode is a black spot (not defensible), his association with the Muslim dude is scary, and worst of all, his illegal immigration record is simply awful. He panders to the worst of the amnesty/LaRaza crowd, even his "last name" slur in the debate ought to be a clue where he still stands on this issue, he is W with a holster concerning illegals, and nothing else.

[Windflier]

Palin blew it with that response. Her Facebook post tonight, where she doesn’t even mention Rick Perry, is telling to astute political observers.

You're making hay, Carl. Palin has obviously dialed it down now, which shows that she's self-correcting.

We know you're hungry for anything with which to skewer her, so I expect you to keep beating this into an unrecognizable pulp. Have fun.

[Windflier]

Sarah could have stopped with her self congratulatons for the candidates discussing her coined issue—crony capitalism. She instead jumped the Bachman shark when she elected to go further and insinuated corruption by her remark

That was a rare misfire on Sarah's part. She's not known for shooting off her mouth, or for spewing destructive gaffes. Quite the opposite. She's probably criticizing herself a lot worse than you are right now. It's one of her better qualities.

We're unlikely to hear anything similar to that from her, for the balance of the campaign.

[DJ MacWoW]

I don’t know what Palin is doing and neither do you.

[magritte]

Oh, I wasn’t spinning. I know you’re anti-Perry no matter what, but I posted some contemporaneous (from 1988) quotes for lurkers to digest and help them form an opinion. Context in the time where events occurred is important.

In 1988, btw, ACU ratings were not readily available as they are now. The ACU was essentially a Republican PAC. It is unlikely that a Democrat from Texas would look to it for any information.

Perhaps you did not read what I quoted. Gore was considered by these 27 Texas Democrats as the MOST conservative of the group of candidates running (Dukakis Jackson), which of course he was. Perry, as a Democrat, was committed to supporting a Democrat in 1988. He wasn’t going to support Bush.

It’s all perfectly logical from a 1988 perspective. Monday morning quarterbacking from 2011 like you are doing, however, is of course dishonest or just naive because you have no understanding of Texas politics of the time period and are merely cherrypicking in your anti-Perry crusade.

[Lakeshark]

Gore's votes are clear, he was a flaming lib by 1988, and had been for years. His votes were on the record, obviously there was no internet to retrieve them, but your "conservative democrat" Texans were either fooled or naive. Methinks you are simply spinning and not able to come to grips that Gore was no longer a conservative in 1988, and had not been for years.

It's not "cherry picking" to show the ACU ratings on Gore's votes were extremely low and show him to already have been a flaming socialist lib, it's simply true. You're the one spinning for a campaign, trying to make your candidate appear more conservative than he is.

[LibLieSlayer]

Thank you... and I am sorry for the misunderstanding. Lots of delusion around here these days... I try to avoid it like the plague.

LLS