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This is too awful for words.
1 posted on 09/13/2011 4:08:13 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 09/13/2011 4:09:07 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 09/13/2011 4:09:50 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 09/13/2011 4:10:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I’m sure each of them has put it in writing that that’s what they want their kids to do to them. Right? Huh?


5 posted on 09/13/2011 4:10:47 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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If I am stuck in bed and people are starving me to death, I hope that aomeone will stick a loaded gun in my hand. I pray that I will have enough strength to aim it and pull the trigger-

and shoot the SOB’s that are starving me to death.


6 posted on 09/13/2011 4:13:30 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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This is too awful for words.

And yet you wallow in it.

7 posted on 09/13/2011 4:15:45 PM PDT by Misterioso (The worst law is better than bureaucratic tyranny. (Ludwig von Mises)
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I’m wondering why the youngest daughter didn’t try going to court to have a guardian appointed for her mother?


8 posted on 09/13/2011 4:19:12 PM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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Yep, the Nazis did this to all of their “useless eaters”. Did it the same way at first as well, starved them to death. Then decide that it was more efficient to gas them instead. Give it 5 or 10 more years and they’ll be doing the same here as well as it will be more “humane”. Our brave new world awaits!


9 posted on 09/13/2011 4:19:25 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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I would be at total war with my family members over this.

I certainly wouldn’t be in a state to be allowed at my parent’s bedside. And my brother and sister would never be able to speak to me again, because every time I saw their face, they would get holy h*ll.


10 posted on 09/13/2011 4:24:23 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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My mother passed away after a valiant fight with Alzheimer's. Her final episode was a massive heart attack that took her in a few hours. My siblings (two brothers and a sister) believed in death with dignity. They thought Terri Schaivo’s death was the right thing to do. I told them that they were projecting. Maybe that's what they might want in her situation but it was unlikely that's what Terri would have wanted. I asked which one of them would ‘assist’ if Mom wanted to ‘die with dignity’? No answer. I told them not to worry. Mom had always valued life and she would NEVER ask one of her children to ‘assist in her death’. I find the Death Culture appalling. I hope all those who deny lifesaving help to those who want help will someday suffer like those on whom they impose their will.
11 posted on 09/13/2011 4:27:02 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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Interesting about the morphine. However there are some people who are dying from cancer that require the morphine every 3-4 hours to keep their pain down. This is a sad case but there are legitimate reasons to give morphine every 3-4 hours.


17 posted on 09/13/2011 4:39:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Man I want them to feed me.

If I become incontinent, my mind is blown with alzheimers, my body filled with bed sores,, gasping for breath, I want my family to spend every dime they have to keep me alive so I can suffer. I don’ want any of them to get a penny’s inheritance, I want it all spent with the nursing home keeping me alive in a vegetative state.I ant my two daughters to have to come and watch me waste away in pain from terminal cancer or whatever else I have, just feed me, If I cannot eat, dose me up with that liquid crap they put in my veins that keeps me alive so my kids can take time away from their families to watch me die after eating for a long time.If I am totally useless, have no mind, have no chance of recovery, just keep feeding me until they go broke , the government goes broke, and then bury me with the $200 dollars Social security gives for the purpose.

Yeah thats the way I want to go, lying there with my family grieving for me every day and saying what a sad case I am waiting to die.


19 posted on 09/13/2011 4:46:50 PM PDT by Venturer
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Been here, done this, watched my mom die from degenerative brain disease...she appeared not to know anybody for months as her body shut its own self down, her feet had been almost black for a week...and then one day out of the blue she clamped her jaws and fought the food and wouldn’t or couldn’t swallow.

We did keep feeding intravenously as long as her eyes opened and let shaved ice melt on her tongue. We didn’t know what she knew inside those blank eyes. The last day as the gray veil came over her face and the doc said pneumonia, how do you want to handle this. We allowed him to take the tube away, but kept the shaved ice coming as long as she’d hold it on her tongue.

We sat and visited, and we all gave her permission to go when she’s ready and too tired to fight. And then she closed her eyes, but the breaths kept coming. On the last two or three, I know this sounds morbid, but my older brother bent over to his Mom’s ear and said, “I know, you’re getting even with me now aren’t ya for torturing your precious daughters.” We all just burst out laughing...and then we looked at Mom saw those same pearls light her face, and said, ‘Go home, Mom. Go to Daddy.’ And she did.

One of my spiritual guru type high school friends who had come in to see if we needed coffee, leaned over and said, “The angels are there in the corner to take your Mom, and your Dad’s there with them.” Wished I could’ve seen that.

I don’t know how anybody could deny the parent sustenance as long as they are willing. Can you imagine saying, ‘OK God, let’s get this show on the road, I’m done with this, come get her! Oh geebus....


20 posted on 09/13/2011 4:56:31 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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OK - I’m just going to say it.....there is a complete difference between proactively “killing” someone and simply allowing their body to die.

Before feeding tubes existed, many people, including my grandfather, passed away because they could not take in enough nutrition to maintain life. If this woman had been given a feeding tube and an IV, her body might have been kept alive for a few more days but she was not going to suddenly recover. Dying is a natural process and it will happen to every single one of us. Denying that reality and keeping alive a loved one’s body because you are not ready to let them go is just as wrong as “assisted suicide”.

Both put human beings into the role of being God. I am completely pro-life but if anyone stuck a feeding tube into me when God was trying to take me home, I’d be livid and my family is well aware of my wishes!

I am sorry for your loss - it is never easy to lose a parent.


21 posted on 09/13/2011 5:01:48 PM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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I’m assuming these “nurses” are super-cocksure that there’s no pain in dying of thirst under morphine, since they’ve tried it for 5 or more days.

Right?


24 posted on 09/13/2011 5:07:28 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning.)
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It is.

My mother in law stroked, and for water they were giving her some kind of WATER GEL, yuk. It was awful, and she hated it. They said water may asperiate her. SO:

When I was there, I got a glass of crushed ICE and gave it to her a chip at a time, she was so grateful and would not let me stop, so thirsty. They caught me doing this, and chewed me out. Mother in law kinda smiling, they told me if she gave a waiver and not hold them responsible, I could continue. That's what she did.

We all knew that she was not to live long, and she wanted water. She never asperiated.

I believe in dignity, and would do it again.

29 posted on 09/13/2011 5:16:51 PM PDT by annieokie
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God bless this daughter


31 posted on 09/13/2011 5:18:54 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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My husband, who is a former cop, upon learning he has Alzheimer’s and Parkinson, threatened to kill himself. I immediately got rid of his guns. He has said many times that he’d rather be dead than have this horrible disease. Against his wishes, I do what I can to keep him comfortable and alive. His Living Will states that he is a DNR and wants only comfort care. As his wife, the decision for me is unbearable. He is in the latter stage, but is still at home. I imagine him to be in a nursing home by winter because I cannot handle him by myself. I cannot and will not judge another’s decision, because I am so unsure of myself, and the right thing to do when the time comes. It’s all about him, but I am the one who has to live with the consequences.


34 posted on 09/13/2011 5:32:02 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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I call bullshit! I’m the youngest son. No one, I repeat, no one is gonna kill my mother. I don’t give a fat, rat’s ass what the doctors or oldest brother think. I’ll go to Hell before I’d allow what this woman allowed.


36 posted on 09/13/2011 5:34:39 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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I think I would be in prison sometime during the course of this abuse. I would not be able to be a good soldier. This is beastly.


44 posted on 09/13/2011 7:58:36 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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