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Michele Bachmann: Accidental Kamikaze
RedState ^ | September 13, 2011 | streiff

Posted on 09/13/2011 12:51:57 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Human shield demagoguery. In response to the legislature’s rebuke, the infuriated governor attacked those who supported repeal as “shameful” spreaders of “misinformation” who were putting “women’s lives” at risk. Borrowing a tried-and-true Alinskyite page from the progressive left, Perry surrounded himself with female cervical cancer victims and deflected criticism of his imperial tactics with emotional anecdotes.

It appears that Gov. Perry represents the " Clinton Wing" of the Republican party.

121 posted on 09/13/2011 5:59:59 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: MNJohnnie

I didn’t see the debate last night, but at the first debate (of Perry’s) he said he WOULD do it over again. He said he would always err on the side of saving lives.


122 posted on 09/13/2011 6:14:18 PM PDT by DrewsMum ("I abandoned free market principles to save the free market." -GWBush)
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To: Mr Inviso; All

“He is the new head of MD Anderson Cancer Center.. the #1 cancer center in the US, which has been either #1 or 2 every year since they started rating that. Disclaimer: I work there. He is not just “some physician”, before he was hired here, he was the head of the Dana Farber cancer research facility at this little-known place called Harvard. He has been doing cancer research AND clinical treatment for decades now. They didn’t just pick him for these spots because of the MD (and Ph.D) after his name, but because he’s top-flight. He has to be to even be considered for the post. DePinho lives, sleeps, eats and breathes cancer research.”

The last line shows his bias; his passion is curing cancer which CLOUDS his judgement. Yours is self admitted(good for you). He is STILL JUST SOME PHYSICIAN. I don’t care how inititals or “credentials” he may have. His opinion is NO better than anyone elses. He could be just some other “educated” fool. This is nanny state mentality.

I have education in biology and know something about immunology. I’m not fully convinced the vaccine is really that effective....but my opinion doesn’t matter except to say as a citizen you don’t FORCE a vaccine on persons except in an extreme situation like an immediately dangerous to life and limb situation like a pandemic of a communicable disease (even then it is shaky ground). Forcing a vaccine against a virus that “may” at some future date cause cervical cancer doesn’t remotely fall into this category.

I am NOT saying the vaccine is bad....just that it should ONLY be given to consenting adults or to children with full parental agreement....without ANY coercion like denial of insurance, etc. The more I read about Texas the more I realize there is coercion there. Bachmann was right about Perry on this. Also, many more lives could be saved from lung cancer IF the government should completely ban cigarettes. I DARE YOU to advocate that kind of nanny state stuff on this forum. Forcing, directly or indirectly, a vaccine for HPV is the equivalent to banning tobacco. Whether you “prescribe” or “proscribe” you are messing with individual liberties that many on this forum will take exception to - and rightly so.

Were I to have a teenage daughter...I would probably have her vacinated against HPV....even though I would hope my daugther would be chaste and marry a man that was as well. There is still a HPV risk, and for me, I think the potential benefits of a vaccine are worth the inherrent risk that comes with taking a vaccine....yes there is always risk. However, just because I would chose to have my daughter vaccinated....I would NEVER force that on anyone else.....that is just wrong. Nor would I allow any type of coercion to be used.

Perry screwed up and Bachmann is right about it. The ONLY thing I will fault Bachmann for is going beyond what was said at the debate. The other stuff about a mentally retarded girl from a HPV shot is a little over the top. She would have been wise to speak with a reputable physician - like the doc you speak highly of - first.

BTW - You folks at MD Anderson are doing good work. I do think more research in immuno augmentation/activation is a better path to go down than anti-viral immunizations. Viruses are too prone to mutate and render a vaccine useless. I am of the school of thought that our immune systems, when working correctly, are actively doing surveillance to find and destroy cancer cells. That line of research, IMO, is the most promising.


123 posted on 09/13/2011 7:07:37 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Servant of the Cross

That picture will be etched in my memory.


124 posted on 09/13/2011 8:27:29 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
I kept thinking about his big eruption and show of humility over what he now calls a mistake, when Bachmann was getting bashed and trashed over repeating what a woman had told her after the debate last night.

Tooo bad there are too many lines in the story to fit into a tag box.

125 posted on 09/13/2011 8:32:04 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Realman30

She won’t drop out until she performs her duty of “taking out” Perry for Romney.


126 posted on 09/13/2011 8:32:39 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

She does have 5 kids - maybe she meant to say 3 daughters, which she has, and you’d think she could have got that right.

And she is a lawyer - was a tax attorney for the IRS. On their side, not ours.


127 posted on 09/13/2011 10:08:32 PM PDT by CatDancer (I want to call Sarah Palin "Madame President". And I'm old. So hurry up!)
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To: bvw

Looks pretty good in that picture from the movie released in 1975. 36 years ago? I doubt she is very cute today.


128 posted on 09/14/2011 1:16:14 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: org.whodat
What a crock!!!!

Engaging in transparent demagoguery is disqualifying.

129 posted on 09/14/2011 1:23:28 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Eva; Cincinatus' Wife; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000
Gardisil is hardly on the level with Obamneycare. Don’t try to equate the two. It won’t work.

This is the key take-away: do not use moral equivalence to smear the strong opponent of our Republic's greatest historic enemy.

Obama is sure to destroy the country utterly--why do his dirty work by falsely attacking one with the courage and position to defeat him.

Truly the culture now reflects the Bill Clinton-Monica Lewinsky effect of 1998, that which is deemed innocuous is now potentially fatal--

That is, the oral sex treated so lightly by POTUS 42 and widespread amidst ever younger groups can spread the virus which is not curable, which in turn can cause the cancer which kills.

An anonymous stranger tells a horror-story anecdote to a candidate who then blabs it on national television to smear her opponent.

As she uses the contribution to accuse him of crony capitalism--can she then take that to Sarah Palin vis-a-vis oil taxes versus fishing waivers.

Bachmann hired Ed Rollins who trashed Sarah Palin--Bachmann was tardy and mumbling in responding to the blowback.

Now that she is smooching the Crisco Candidate, she is making the leap from an attempt to protect a vulnerable group from an identified menace to the Borg-like fascism of secret two-thousand-page bills granting unplumbed depths of authority "as the Secretary may determine"--

Bachmann serves the needs of Obama and Romney and in doing so has exposed herself as unacceptable.


130 posted on 09/14/2011 3:11:53 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2778035/posts


131 posted on 09/14/2011 3:15:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: PhilDragoo
Nice touch!

Bachmann no stranger to pharma donations

132 posted on 09/14/2011 7:55:17 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: MNJohnnie

oh for goodness sakes! What about all those required vaccines for preschoolers and infants? And what about the government interfering with parents who refuse medical care in lieu of prayer for their dying child?

Get Real.


133 posted on 09/14/2011 8:30:39 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

The author is what the comment was addressed to. I hate snot noised people that think they are better than anyone else, and that summed up the authors writing. A very elitist snot noise. Had to have gone to some liberal school.


134 posted on 09/14/2011 3:47:28 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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