[HangnJudge]

Do not navigators learn to navigate without GPS?

I assume the plane was not so much forced down
as it chose to return to a known safe point
by non-GPS techniques

Misleading Headline?

[mazda77]

10-4

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

The use of the term “forced down” is an obvious embellishment. They probably turned back and landed thinking it was an on-board avionics problem.

[reed13]

Yes there are multiple backups - worse case scenario they go above the clouds and shoot celestial navigation. Buddy of mine was an airforce bomber pilot - they had to assume those conditions in training all the time.

I’m Navy and the first thing to go in any refresher training course was GPS (then Loran, etc I know I’m dating myself with that). Then all the officers and quartermasters who knew how to shoot bearings and plot. Somehow in reftra we always ended up a burning hulk adrift with not a single NCO or Officer in charge. I used to enjoy walking around in my “zombie” state teaching and helping sailors with this and that thing they’d never worked on before. Good times. Was the best part of being in the service...though I always questioned if the training always ended up that way would they be so ingrained to it that they would ‘zombify’ on cue in a real attack - LOL.

[secondamendmentkid]

“..Misleading Headline?.. Do not navigators learn to navigate without GPS?..”

I certainly hope so, eg dead reckoning, celestial, radar, local area noon, etc. But maybe we’re so screwed up like today’s education system where we have to use calculators to do square roots or long division.

Certainly, some form of tactical or strategic retaliation (jam their radar, screw up their satellites, etc.) was in order, but as another poster said, the pubic public doesn’t have a need to know about this.

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Do not navigators learn to navigate without GPS? I assume the plane was not so much forced down as it chose to return to a known safe point by non-GPS techniques Misleading Headline?

I thought the same thing. GPS went down, plane went home to find out why.

We should still blow the locations of the jammers out of ground though.

[ops33]

I think you are correct. In years gone by the term was MIJI, Meaconing, Intrusion, Jamming and Interference. Intrusion was someone make fake transmissions on the radio, Jamming was just that, while Meaconing was intentionally broadcasting false navigational signals sent to lure an aircraft off course. During the early part of the Cold War there were several instances of the East Bloc meaconing on navigational aids near the East European borders. There were a few instances of aircraft being meaconed into flying into East Germany and being shot down. Perhaps the GPS signals were being distorted to lure the aircraft into North Korea and be shot down. The aircraft, not being sure of its exact location, did declare an emergency was able to land inside South Korea. Just the knowledge that the NK’s could distort an aircraft's guidance to the point that the pilot did not know exactly where he was would be significant. MIJI, anyway, that's just a guess.