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Is the world doomed to suffer another Depression?
Telegraph ^ | 09/07/2011 | Jeremy Warner

Posted on 09/07/2011 8:14:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Europe is in disarray, stock markets are plunging, the banking crisis is back in full swing, gold is at record levels, and both the UK and US are self-evidently slipping back towards recession – not since the autumn of 2008 have things looked quite so ominous.

We appear to be at another pivotal moment, with Western economies once more staring into the abyss. At a conference in Frankfurt this week, Josef Ackermann, chief executive of Deutsche Bank, compared events to the Lehman Brothers catastrophe of 2008 and warned that many banks in Europe are essentially bust. His opposite number at KfW went further still and said that the present cocktail of negatives was “much more dramatic than 2008”.

Back then, governments and central banks still had the financial firepower and the will to attack the problem with massive injections of fiscal and monetary stimulus.

Today, the fiscal armoury is exhausted, while it is not clear that further monetary easing through the printing presses of “quantitative easing” would have any effect beyond adding to inflation.

Indeed, the parallels look alarmingly closer to the banking collapses of 1931, which plunged the world into prolonged depression, than the storms around the Lehman collapse.

In Europe and the US policymakers are paralysed – by growing Euroscepticism among electorates on the one hand and fierce Republican resistance to further deficit spending on the other. There is little or no consensus about what needs to be done. In Europe, governments are a million miles away from either of the two remedies likely to resolve the crisis: break-up of the euro or the establishment of political and fiscal union.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debtcrisis; depression; obama; obamadepression; obamanomics; world

1 posted on 09/07/2011 8:14:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, and everyone should have been preparing for it for several years now.


2 posted on 09/07/2011 8:17:10 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another one? You mean besides the one its in now?


3 posted on 09/07/2011 8:24:18 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone

No, see if we were in a Depression then U6 unemployment would be over 20%. It’s only 17%.

So no, not a Depression. Just a mild depression ... albeit one with 9% real inflation and crushing per-capita Federal debt.

Everything’s great! La la la la!


4 posted on 09/07/2011 8:32:40 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh goody now where will the 3rd world war start to you know fix the glitch


5 posted on 09/07/2011 8:40:23 AM PDT by Flavius (What hopes for victory, Gaius Crastinus? What grounds for encouragement ?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh goody now where will the 3rd world war start to you know fix the glitch


6 posted on 09/07/2011 8:40:35 AM PDT by Flavius (What hopes for victory, Gaius Crastinus? What grounds for encouragement ?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Absolutely and if obama has his way it will last over 10 years!

Someone gave the idiot FDR’s play book.


7 posted on 09/07/2011 8:52:26 AM PDT by dalereed (uity wise!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh goody now where will the 3rd world war start to you know fix the glitch


8 posted on 09/07/2011 8:54:21 AM PDT by Flavius (What hopes for victory, Gaius Crastinus? What grounds for encouragement ?)
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To: SeekAndFind

no, because Obama, the Euros, the Saudis and the ChiComs are all meeting secretly as we speak and all agreeing to support a REALLY BIG LIE that, in the end, we’ll all go along with, mainly because no one can afford NOT to.


9 posted on 09/07/2011 8:58:38 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You really believe that(?)


10 posted on 09/07/2011 9:12:03 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: SeekAndFind

If the answer is yes, then all that we’ve worked for over the last 30 years counts for nothing.


11 posted on 09/07/2011 9:13:23 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: ZX12R

Yes, and everyone should have been preparing for it for several years now.


Yep. There are powerful people who want the dollar to collapse so a world bank can rise from the ashes to save us all. They are globalists and seek one world governance. If they can create a new world currency/bank they will become very wealthy and we will become very poor. Soros and his ilk are globalists.

This idea also appeals to the socialists who despise exceptionalism in any nation. At their core, they would rather have each nation equally miserable. Equality is more important to them than exceptionalism. Don’t believe me? Look at the reverance they have for a disfunctional U.N. They are useful idiots to the globalists. Obama anyone?

If I sound like a conspiracy kook feel free to straighten me out. I used to make fun of people who said the same thing I just wrote but nothing else makes sense. I don’t even think it has to be centrally organized.... it’s simple trend analysis.

Preparation is important but the next U.S. election is the biggest impediment we can throw at them. I pray we get it right!


12 posted on 09/07/2011 9:31:22 AM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: volunbeer

There are many, many things folks now think about, or have to try very very hard to avoid thinking about, that they didn’t use to have to.

And the political junkies hope for an election “cure”.

You really don’t have go full auto “global” to see the depth of the problem...it’s been building for years and the usurper used his moment to accelerate it past the tipping point.

Just a few cases in point (I am sure you can add others)

1. 1 in 3 Americans unemployed? I heard this recently. Whatever the number ALL economists agree the jobs lost are NOT coming back. End of employment (particularly for white males) as it was understood.

2. Over 50% of the population on some form of assistance. Maybe this counts Soc. Sec. not just SSI, I don’t know. But the fact is we have a slacker society. That isn’t going to change.

3. Federal and many State budget outlooks, beyond repair. Only cuts and broken promises on pensions etc. lie in the future for as far as the eye can see. That isn’t going to Change.

4. Federal debt, basically unrecoverable at this point. Who owns this debt?, does it matter (yes), what will the shake-out be as this continues to spiral out of control. No one knows or really wants to tell you (think Argentina).

5. Civility, educational standards, union death throes and threats to take everyone else down with them, zero cultural glue, fractured ethniciies dominating population growth. America needs to do a search for a new name to match reality.

The potential for violence, disintegration, and lifelong distress for those under 40 years old, is very very real.

The fact that you even have to say or think these things shows the extant of the damage.

An eleciton of socialists over the comminists will not change a thing on any of these items.

Buy guns and amo, create defensible space, store food, and have a bug out plan.

you might live a little while longer. That’s all there is now.


13 posted on 09/07/2011 10:18:16 AM PDT by GaryVB
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To: agere_contra

14 posted on 09/07/2011 10:55:17 AM PDT by blam
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