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ADP: August US Private-Sector Jobs +91K Vs +100K Expected
Fox Business ^ | 31 Aug 11 | Kathleen Madigan

Posted on 08/31/2011 6:44:30 AM PDT by xzins

NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Private businesses added a modest number of jobs in August, according to a report released Wednesday.

Private-sector jobs in the U.S. rose by 91,000 this month, ... had expected ADP would report an August gain of 100,000.

The July data were revised down to show a rise of 109,000 versus 114,000 reported earlier.

...Economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires expect total nonfarm payrolls rose by only 80,000 slots in August. This month's number is expected to be held down by workers on strike at Verizon Communications Inc. (VZ) in mid-August and layoffs in the state and local government sector.

The August unemployment rate is expected to remain at 9.1%.

Other job-related news released Wednesday suggests a sluggish labor market.

U.S. employers announced plans to trim 51,114 workers from the payrolls in August

TrimTabs said the decline in government stimulus is bringing to light an underlying weak economy incapable of generating enough jobs to reduce unemployment.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxbusiness.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: down; figuresreviseddown; joblessness; obamanomics; obamaployment; reviseddown

1 posted on 08/31/2011 6:44:37 AM PDT by xzins
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How can payrolls be held down by Verizon’s striking workers? They’re either striking or they’re unemployed. Which is it?

I suspect a new counting trick in which returning strikers are to be counted as new job hires.


2 posted on 08/31/2011 6:46:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
Aha~! I knew I was missing something

Earlier reports today expressed the great news about the +91K jobs.

But it's not so great when you ‘expect’ 100k, and even 100K would be too anemic to help the economy. 91K is pathetic. And that is before they revise it down (like they have done with every single reports prior to this)

So this ‘great news’ is not so great.

3 posted on 08/31/2011 6:48:35 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofread....)
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4 posted on 08/31/2011 6:48:44 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: xzins

You mean Obama’s plan of extending unemployment insurance and giving out more free money to FDA home owners and stimulating his mobs of the SEIU and fat cat companies didn’t work AGAIN? Wait...since ACORN has moved overseas and changed they’re name this will create more jobs to steal votes for Obama. Also moveon.org will also be providing USA jobs to ride illegal aliens and dead people around and give them a pack of smokes to go vote for Obama.


5 posted on 08/31/2011 6:56:10 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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To: xzins
The July data were revised down to show a rise of 109,000 versus 114,000 reported earlier.

I expect this number to go down again after school shopping is done. The next big sales month isn't until Christmas. The stores this year will be seeliing cheap junk,too, because people can't afford as much this year, and stores can't afford to invest.
Obomanomics really sucks.

6 posted on 08/31/2011 6:56:38 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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What! A previous month was revised downward! What a shock! How totally unexpected!

As an online retailer I can tell you "Christmas Shopping" actually begins in late September - so the retail sales figures for September and October will be revealing. Yes, December is the biggest month - but by late October one gets a sense of which direction things are going.

One surprising outcome (at least to me) of Obamanomics is that I am seeing a greater demand for high-end (rare or one-of-a-kind) merchandise. My theory is that since no small businessperson with a lick of sense is expanding with the sword of Obamacare hanging over his head, there is a lot of cash on the sidelines and some hard-working folks are deciding it's a good time to have a little "treat" for themselves. In normal times they would be ploughing their money back into their business; now, I think, they figure they don't dare expand & what they have is going to be taxed away, so why not enjoy it?

But, of course, that small slice of the market does not offset the huge middle-class market, where people are very much looking for a very good buy before they spend anything.

7 posted on 08/31/2011 7:29:37 AM PDT by In Maryland ("If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" - Mark Twain)
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To: xzins
The latest ADP report showed large businesses with 500 employees or more added only 3,000 new employees, and medium-size businesses added 30,000 workers in August, while small businesses that employ fewer than 50 workers hired 58,000 new workers.

Here is the breakdown that should get people thinking. The large companies only added 3,000 people. The bulk of the hiring is in small business, but getting credit/capital is almost impossible for small business. Our economy is going to continue to limp into another recession (if we aren't already in it) if the driving force in the economy can't get money to grow.

8 posted on 08/31/2011 7:30:56 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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I agree totally. Small business is in a strangle-hold, and they’ll not expand until there’s some clarity about the next 4 years.

Large business, though, is sort of like bell-weather states, they show broader trends, and their not hiring is the broad trend.


9 posted on 08/31/2011 7:41:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
Large business, though, is sort of like bell-weather states, they show broader trends, and their not hiring is the broad trend.

I think it is changing. Crony capitalism (corporatism) and globalization (moving operations overseas) has tended to stagnate growth of the multinationals. They can lock in market share through govt regulation and tax policy. Also, multinationals increasingly look first to expand overseas because of better labor conditions and less regulation.

10 posted on 08/31/2011 7:51:39 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: xzins
xzins wrote:
How can payrolls be held down by Verizon’s striking workers? They’re either striking or they’re unemployed. Which is it?
Well, "on strike" is consistent with "not on the payroll this week." That's not inconsistent.

Also, some of the stiking workers tried to claim unemployment. Those claims should be denied, but I learned last week that the "new unemployment claims" numbers includes all claims, even claims that are denied. So fraudulent claims from striking Verizon workers apparently may have contributed to "higher than expected" claims last week.

Of course, that could be a complete lie told by the media to explain away some of the bad news, but the reports about that were fairly consistent, and some calls I made tended to support the "initial claims" numbers being reported every week actually do include some claims which are actually denied.

11 posted on 08/31/2011 8:00:12 AM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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12 posted on 08/31/2011 8:14:09 AM PDT by devolve (If my graphics offend you/HLS scroll down - If too large simply carefully back away from your PC)
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To: xzins

NEW unemployment claims WEEKLY are about 400,000.

Times 4 weeks==1.6 million——1,600,000.

Not even one in SIXTEEN laid off persons is getting rehired.

NObama needs to be run out of the country—along with his illegal family members.


13 posted on 08/31/2011 8:17:30 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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They’ll just come up with a new chart showing that unemployment would have been 20% without a recovery plan.


14 posted on 08/31/2011 8:22:18 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ridesthemiles
Times 4 weeks==1.6 million——1,600,000. Not even one in SIXTEEN laid off persons is getting rehired.

From the article....."The July data were revised down to show a rise of 109,000 versus 114,000 reported earlier"

The rise is a net number. 1.6 million laid off, 1.7 million hired.

NObama needs to be run out of the country—along with his illegal family members.

Well, yeah.

15 posted on 08/31/2011 4:58:19 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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