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NH law enforcement: Deadly force bill unnecessary
Bangor Daily News ^ | 28 August, 2011 | Jennifer Keefe

Posted on 08/29/2011 7:03:44 AM PDT by marktwain

DOVER, NH — Local law enforcement officials in support of Gov. John Lynch’s veto of a bill that would allow citizens to use deadly force in self-defense with civil immunity say they’re not only satisfied with the current law, but are concerned the new bill would produce unintended consequences.

SB 88, which would allow a person to use deadly force to protect themselves or a third party and face civil immunity in certain circumstances, was vetoed earlier this year by Lynch, who has been vocal in his view that the bill would make the job of law enforcement more difficult.

“I believe strongly that this is an issue of public safety, and we should be supporting law enforcement on this important issue,” Lynch said. “An ideology that is out of touch with New Hampshire should not be put above public safety, but that is what we are seeing from the other side. This bill is reckless and dangerous, and it emboldens criminals by giving them a legal out when they use deadly force.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: banglist; castle; nh; sb88
The bill passed the New Hampshire House and Senate with more than 75% of the vote. They will likely override the governors veto.

31 states have similar laws without problems.

1 posted on 08/29/2011 7:03:49 AM PDT by marktwain
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‘This bill is reckless and dangerous, and it emboldens criminals by giving them a legal out when they use deadly force.”’

Guess who the “criminals” are in this statement? It definitely is not the criminals! Just gotta love those thugs with badges. They have to protect their fellow thug sans badges.


2 posted on 08/29/2011 7:08:55 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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Cops got their immunity. That’s all that matters.


3 posted on 08/29/2011 7:09:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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Nevada Revised Statutes:

NRS 200.150 Justifiable or excusable homicide. All other instances which stand upon the same footing of reason and justice as those enumerated shall be considered justifiable or excusable homicide.

[1911 C&P § 132; RL § 6397; NCL § 10079]

NRS 200.160 Additional cases of justifiable homicide. Homicide is also justifiable when committed:

1. In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother or sister, or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or

2. In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his or her presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode in which the slayer is.

[1911 C&P § 133; A 1931, 160; 1931 NCL § 10080]—(NRS A 1993, 932)

NRS 200.200 Killing in self-defense. If a person kills another in self-defense, it must appear that:

1. The danger was so urgent and pressing that, in order to save the person’s own life, or to prevent the person from receiving great bodily harm, the killing of the other was absolutely necessary; and

2. The person killed was the assailant, or that the slayer had really, and in good faith, endeavored to decline any further struggle before the mortal blow was given.

[1911 C&P § 137; RL § 6402; NCL § 10084]


4 posted on 08/29/2011 7:09:52 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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Our NH governor is a DemonRAT who signed gay marriage into law even though he promised not to do so when he got elected and even though 2/3 of the state’s voters opposed the bill.

Typical of NH, to show their disapproval of the donkey governor, they reelected him.


5 posted on 08/29/2011 7:10:22 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Cops got their immunity.

Yep. It's called indemnification.

6 posted on 08/29/2011 7:18:18 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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The only time cops ever get prosecuted for anything is...

...I can't remember any cop getting prosecuted for anything.

7 posted on 08/29/2011 7:55:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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So this is basically another ‘stand your ground’ bill ?


8 posted on 08/29/2011 9:17:15 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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So this is basically another ‘stand your ground’ bill ?

Ayeh. From the article:
Prime Sponsor of SB 88, Sen. David Boutin, R-Hooksett, said the expectation to retreat is shortsighted.
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Boutin disagrees that current law is sufficient, saying while people currently have the right to defend themselves, they do not have the right to stand their ground.
“That’s what’s in SB 88,” he said. “It says you have a right to defend yourself wherever you have the right to be. You should have the right to defend yourself if someone were to attack you.”

9 posted on 08/29/2011 9:34:31 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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IIRC, our attempt at this failed here in MN last session.


10 posted on 08/29/2011 9:36:14 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: marktwain

Politic, politics. the cops want something so they object to this. To acquiesce they are looking for a payoff.


11 posted on 08/29/2011 1:19:54 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought ("The proposition that the government is always right is manifested either in corruption or benefits)
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