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To: ventanax5
We lost the War on Terror in two ways. First, by refusing to name it correctly. Second, by refusing to fight it brutally and quickly.

Insteady, we've put our own lack of cultural confidence out for all to see. Our elites laugh and deride the idea of a clash of civilizations, but they're wrong. They don't realize that Usama Bin Laden won. Not just on 9/11, but his movement is succeeding, even after the members have perished.

He never expected to win militarily. He just needed the Islamic world to be encouraged enough to keep pushing forward. To realize that the spirit was more important than the sword.

Once a society abandons their gods, they're ripe for conquest from within. Just as the Romans and Greeks once fell from polytheism to Christianity, so will Europe fall to Islam. The rotten husk of empire, where the citizens have grown selfish and focused on the now and not the future, is fertile ground for expansionist religions.

In 20 years, the Netherlands will be an Islamic state. In 50, the local Dutch will be all but extinct. The rest of Europe will not be far behind either of those two events. Unless they wake up and renounce the soul-deflating effects of collectivism and liberalism, they're done for.

At best, they can serve as a warning to America, who is on the same path, just much further behind.

11 posted on 08/27/2011 9:09:13 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Steel Wolf

How would you have fought the war?

One problem the EU has is a falling birth rate, so over time Muslims (with their higher birth rate) will end up being a higher percentage of the population. They can expel the Muslims, but the reason they were brought in the first place was to ‘do the jobs that Europeans couldn’t do’ because there just arent enough of them anymore.

The second problem is the fact we need the oil in the Mid East. I think we should have invested alot more money a long time ago into looking at alternative technologies. If we had succeeded, we could just build a giant wall around the entire Mid East and ignore it.


13 posted on 08/27/2011 10:06:40 AM PDT by jefferson31415
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