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2 shot in SF parking lot after Raiders-49ers game
AP ^ | August 21, 2011

Posted on 08/20/2011 11:18:33 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Two men were shot and wounded in the parking lot of Candlestick Park after a preseason NFL game Saturday night between the San Francisco 49ers and the Oakland Raiders, police said.

The shootings occurred around 8 p.m., shortly after the 49ers' 17-3 victory, police Sgt. Michael Andraychak said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 49ers; football; nfl; oakland; raiders; sanfrancisco
The Giants. The 49ers. What's next? The Warriors?
1 posted on 08/20/2011 11:18:35 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Time to ban NFL Football! /sarc


2 posted on 08/20/2011 11:22:15 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: latina4dubya

ping


3 posted on 08/20/2011 11:27:09 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Sheesh...it was just a pre-season game!
4 posted on 08/20/2011 11:29:16 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Allegra
Sometimes, discussions about QB battles can lead to this. /sarc.
5 posted on 08/20/2011 11:34:44 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement
Come out and play...

6 posted on 08/20/2011 11:34:49 PM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

10 to 1 the shooter was a Raiders fan. The d’bags of the NFL.


7 posted on 08/20/2011 11:37:40 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: Allegra; ConservativeStatement

>>> Sheesh...it was just a pre-season game

Exactly. So they were only wounded.


8 posted on 08/20/2011 11:42:16 PM PDT by tlb
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One day while at work I suddenly had the urge to see a matinee. I didn't go to movies often but walked to the Termont Street Theater. I didn't know what they were showing and I had not heard of the movie when I saw the marque. It was The Warriors. The next day I won $68 on a WRKO call in contest. I won't tell how much I scarfed up betting on Stretch "The Wonder Dog" at Wonderland that weekend.

How can I complain about the hand life has dealt me? I can't.


9 posted on 08/20/2011 11:49:53 PM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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To: DryFly

“10 to 1 the shooter was a Raiders fan”

The original thug fan base, before they took over the Dodgers as well.


10 posted on 08/20/2011 11:53:43 PM PDT by Pelham ("Resist we much!" - Al 'Jiffypop' Sharpton)
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To: ConservativeStatement

And some guy was found nearly beaten to death in the men’s room.
It was reported that the one shot and the one beaten have life threatening injuries and may be classified as homicides.
Sad!


11 posted on 08/20/2011 11:56:31 PM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: DryFly
10 to 1 the shooter was a Raiders fan. The d’bags of the NFL.

You are most likely correct. I haven't been to most of the ballparks where professional football is played. In fact I've only been to 5. But the worst fans I've ever seen are in Oakland. They seem to take pride in being obnoxious. And if you are wearing the jersey or hat of the opposing team you take your life in your hands in Oakland. I'm surprised the NFL has allowed this to continue in Oakland. The fans of the Raiders take this as a badge of honor. I kid you not.

You could wear the jersey of the opposing team in San Francisco, San Diego, Denver or Seattle and not fear for your life. But in Oakland, it's dangerous.

It's a pathetic situation in Oakland, in more ways than one.
12 posted on 08/21/2011 12:01:03 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: truthguy
But the worst fans I've ever seen are in Oakland. They seem to take pride in being obnoxious. And if you are wearing the jersey or hat of the opposing team you take your life in your hands in Oakland.

And this from Philadelphia:


13 posted on 08/21/2011 12:18:21 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Preview of coming attractions, folks. This is just a sign of the times. Be sure to keep you and yours safe.

14 posted on 08/21/2011 12:22:52 AM PDT by dixieMom504
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To: ConservativeStatement

Are you ready for some f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-football?


15 posted on 08/21/2011 12:33:26 AM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (He hate me)
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To: DryFly

It’s true. The bartenders in SF have a pejorative phrase for troublemakers — “Raiders fans”.


16 posted on 08/21/2011 12:34:51 AM PDT by zipper
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To: Allegra
"Sheesh...it was just a pre-season game!"

That's OK. They were just practice shootings.
17 posted on 08/21/2011 12:43:13 AM PDT by shibumi ("A Republic - if you can keep it.")
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To: shibumi

If Ca would get in step with the rest of the nation on law abiding citizens having CCW, a lot less of this would happen.

An armed society is where the criminals knwo they will be dead if they assult the wrong legally carrying CCW.


18 posted on 08/21/2011 2:13:28 AM PDT by Oiao (Socialism Kills)
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To: Oiao

Oops, spell check on the last post. Don’t dogpile me, LOL.


19 posted on 08/21/2011 2:15:08 AM PDT by Oiao (Socialism Kills)
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To: All
A 2008 article sums it up: A fall tradition – Chargers-Raiders, plenty of police

Police and security presence is higher than at all other Charger games and beer sales are cut off at half time not after 3Q like all other home games in an effort to head off Raider violence.

20 posted on 08/21/2011 3:31:23 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

Wow....I never thought that there would be another team that made Eagles fans look like angels! Just damn.


21 posted on 08/21/2011 4:52:33 AM PDT by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy (Say Nope To The Hope Dope in '12!!!!!)
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To: DryFly

The reports I hear are that the shooting victim was wearing a shirt dissing the 49ers so the shooter was likely a 49er fan.


22 posted on 08/21/2011 7:30:42 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Oiao
If Ca would get in step with the rest of the nation on law abiding citizens having CCW, a lot less of this would happen.

No NFL stadium allows concealed carry and it has nothing to do with the laws. It's just private policy.

23 posted on 08/21/2011 10:25:31 AM PDT by triumphant values
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To: ConservativeStatement
Yep! This is just the pre-season. By the time we get to the playoffs, things could get interesting.

By November 2012, election time, things could be very interesting.

24 posted on 08/21/2011 10:26:50 AM PDT by CharlyFord (t)
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To: truthguy
I'm surprised the NFL has allowed this to continue in Oakland.

I'm surprised too, along with what goes on in Philly. NFL games are no longer a sure sellout (even playoffs) and the league will go the way of the NBA if it comes to be perceived as a sport preferred by thugs.

25 posted on 08/21/2011 10:28:18 AM PDT by triumphant values
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To: triumphant values

The shootings happened in the Parking Lot, not the secured area of the stadium.


26 posted on 08/21/2011 11:56:55 AM PDT by Oiao (Socialism Kills)
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To: triumphant values
Sorry, meant to also add that only the ‘beatings’ occurred in the stadium. But you have to realize that a CCW would require much better decorum in the parking lot. These people are animals and law abiding citizens should not have to submit to the lowest common denominator of this crap.
27 posted on 08/21/2011 12:00:11 PM PDT by Oiao (Socialism Kills)
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To: truthguy

The NFL makes a lot of money off of the Oakland Franchise. They will let these animals do whatever they want. Afterall, it is the Police and normal citizens who have to deal with it in the end, not the NFL. They are laughing all the way to the bank.


28 posted on 08/21/2011 12:04:05 PM PDT by Oiao (Socialism Kills)
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To: Oiao
The shootings happened in the Parking Lot, not the secured area of the stadium.

Yeah, to a guy walking back to his car and the beating of a guy nearly to death happened in the bathroom.

Concealed carry can be a lifesaver in many instances, but they aren't going to be the societal paradigm changer that I see ascribed to them so often on FR.

Most of these crimes are done by people who have the impulse control of a rabid squirrel and the forethought abilities of a fruit fly.

The consequences of them pulling a gun are the furthest thing from their mind when they do it.

Ever spent much time in the ghetto watching people cross the street? Everybody knows you get hit by a truck and you could die, yet they dart into the street constantly like deer on a rural road. No forethought, even on that rudimentary level. None.

I mean all their enemies carry pistols and that doesn't stop them from shooting up a birthday party.

Sure, you'll cure a symptom here and there with CCW, but it won't make much of a dent in the problem.

29 posted on 08/21/2011 12:15:07 PM PDT by triumphant values
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To: triumphant values

Good points. Agree with you that the ‘root cause’ is the problem. I am simply not going to be a victim of it. I spent too many years hanging ‘it’ out there to be now left alone in peace. So, I don’t do crowds anymore.


30 posted on 08/21/2011 12:20:39 PM PDT by Oiao (Socialism Kills)
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To: Allegra

I guess they ARE ready for some football!.........
Cowboys/Texans will probably have M-16’s in the parking lot ala Fast & Furious........


31 posted on 08/21/2011 12:49:09 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Allegra

Oh, and the Cardinals and Chargers, too!.........


32 posted on 08/21/2011 12:50:41 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: I see my hands

Why did you want to see a manatee?......oh, wait.........


33 posted on 08/21/2011 12:52:34 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: triumphant values

I’m surprised too, since the shootings occurred at Candlestick Park...in San Francisco.


34 posted on 08/21/2011 1:05:07 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Red Badger

You betch ya. 3 legal and probably 3 throw away.


35 posted on 08/21/2011 1:11:29 PM PDT by Oiao (Socialism Kills)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Well look like Raider fan acting like Raider fan


36 posted on 08/21/2011 2:19:21 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Red Badger
Cowboys/Texans will probably have M-16’s in the parking lot ala Fast & Furious........

LOL - except that the Texans and Cowboys will not be crossing paths this year. :)

37 posted on 08/21/2011 2:24:26 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Allegra

No, I meant their fans!....


38 posted on 08/21/2011 5:06:06 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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