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Using this reasoning, I guess we should award the World Series to the team that gets the most runs, huh?
1 posted on 08/15/2011 10:45:41 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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If California wants to split its electoral votes in the name of fairness that’s just fine with me. Hopefully just New York, Illinois, and Oregon would follow suit.


28 posted on 08/15/2011 11:42:57 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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Yes! The 17th Amendment has shown such wonderful effect, we should definitely use direct election for the POTUS. In fact we should completely eliminate the outmoded Constitution and all public offices and go with direct democracy for every issue. It is only fair and everyone knows that mob rule is best. Look at London, France and Greece.


30 posted on 08/15/2011 12:23:29 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
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In order to FULLY understand this, you need to do the electoral math ...

With winner-take-all, a given candidate simply BYPASSES the SMALL states with 4 or less electoral votes [whether they are heavily FOR or AGAINST] since there is no bang for the buck. States FOR and AGAINST are gonna vote that way NO MATTER WHAT and the pay-off in electoral votes is marginal. A given candidate ALSO bypasses LARGE states that are going to vote the other way NO MATTER WHAT - IT IS A LOST CAUSE. ONLY the swing states are the battleground ...

With NPV, it is THE SAME as winner-take-all - ONLY drilled down to the state level. It IS TRUE that a given candidate will have MORE incentive to campaign in a given state, BUT population centers within the state leaning heaavily ONE WAY or the OTHER will STILL be bypassed. Only the swing population centers are the battleground ...

With the Congressional District method, EACH District IN ALL 50 states is given EQUAL weight [with the remaining 2 votes going to the state-wide winner]. WILL there STILL be districts BYPASSED? OBVIOUSLY - but to a MUCH LESSER degree than with winner-take-all or NPV. A given candidate has MUCH MORE incentive to campaign in the state since he can pick up electoral votes on a district-by-district basis ...

AND, in a CLOSE state-wide election, a candidate that LOSES in the total District electoral count can ACTUALLY win the 2 outstanding electoral votes, if he wins the state popular vote ...

IS IT PERFECT - HELL NO !!! BUT, it is MORE fair and MORE representative of a state’s will than EITHER winner-take-all OR NPV ...


38 posted on 08/15/2011 2:52:40 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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