Boop His Beak!
Let Free Republic fly like an eagle
Make a one-time donation
Or sign up to donate monthly
Posted on 08/03/2011 6:11:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
No. It just seems that you drink the food industry koolaid.
I know, and now realize it is all a dream. Pasteur was wrong, Koch was wrong, and every bacteriologist since 1877 has been involved in the conspiracy to make people believe raw milk can carry infectious disease.
It's a shame science hasn't progressed since 1895.
So when do they start arresting children for having lemonade stands or old ladies for using walkers? Not long off I’m sure.
First you get a warning...
Let me guess......you eat salmonella, listeria and E.coli 0157:H7 for breakfast, lunch and dinner. The rest of us are pussies.
Susceptibility to organisms is rooted in incorrect body geography
I'm sure in your world this statement has meaning. I have no idea what that meaning might be, but I'm sure, at least to you, this statement is coherent.
I heard it also causes sun spots. I read it on the internet so it must be true.
What a pant load. Your body produces all the enzymes it requires. Your body needs absolutely ZERO enzymes from milk to digest milk.
pasteurization destroys them completely.
Please provide us with a list of all the enzymes that are completely destroyed by the pasteurization process. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Why, because I happen to know what I'm talking about?
Good grief man, if you're going to make the claims you did on a forum like FR, don't you think you should at least know the difference between homogenization and hydrogenation? It really wouldn't take all that much effort.
I do know the difference. The problem with homogenization is that it breaks down the structure of the milk fat so that it can enter the blood stream in an unnatural way. There are numerous articles by health and nutrition experts with related degrees and experience that say you are wrong. If you care to educate yourself, it takes seconds to find them. Homogenized milk fat is not a naturally occuring substance and our bodies weren’t designed to handle it. Milk born diseases, for the most part are only harmful to people that have weakened immune systems. Avoiding germs doesn’t make you healthier. That’s why we immunize.
Then why did you make the claim that homogenizing milk turns milk into a trans fat? Do you even know what a trans fat is or how they are created artificially? A small amount of trans fat occurs naturally in milk. You do not create trans fat by homogenizing milk.
The problem with homogenization is that it breaks down the structure of the milk fat so that it can enter the blood stream in an unnatural way. There are numerous articles by health and nutrition experts with related degrees and experience that say you are wrong
This was a popular hypothesis promoted back in the 70's and early 80's by Kurt Oster. Oster believed that an enzyme (XO) caused the loss of plasmalogen from the cells lining arteries and that the loss of plasmalogen lead to plaque development. Milk from cows contains a lot of XO even after pasteurization. Oster speculated that because homogenizing milk significantly reduces the size of the fat globules, the XO would be protected from digestive enzymes by the outer membranes of these much smaller fat globules. He suggested that the globules passed directly into the circulatory system where they destroyed the plasmalogen and allowed plaque to form. This plaque then lead to atherosclerosis, heart disease and, eventually, death.
One of Oster's colleagues, Dr. Ross, claimed this process affected blood sugar in diabetic rats so, all of a sudden, alarmists were claiming that homogenizing milk caused diabetes when no such connection was ever made.
You need to read the research of AJ Clifford et al, that makes clear why Oster and Ross' hypotheses don't stand up to scrutiny. I've included a link below to the research.
Milk born diseases, for the most part are only harmful to people that have weakened immune systems.
That's a bunch of BS. Only someone with no knowledge of pathology would say such a ridiculous thing. Have you ever witnessed someone suffering from Salmonella dublin or HUS from E.coli 0157:H? If you have a healthy immune system I suggest you go and consume some of these bacteria and see how you do. Coxiella burnetii is another brutal bug. In one recent test, 94% of all bulk milk tanks tested positive for coxiella burnetii while 90% of dairy herds have at least one infected cow. Heaven forbid we pasteurize the milk.
All of the pathogens found in raw milk can seriously hurt people with healthy immune systems and, like all pathogens, they can be especially hard on people with compromised immune systems, children, pregnant women and the elderly. Why some people willingly play Russian roulette with their health and, even more appalling, the health of their children, for absolutely no justifiable reason, is a testament to the ignorance of some people. You have to have a license to go fishing but any idiot can be a parent.
One of the very last countries in Europe to pass mandatory pasteurization laws was Scotland. Prior to the enactment of this legislation in 1983, the rate of milkborne Salmonellosis in Scotland was the highest in Europe. A year after pasteurization was made mandatory, Scotland's rate was one of the lowest. A study was then conducted on the remaining incidence of milkborne Salmonellosis over a three-year period following forced pasteurization. During that time there were only 15 outbreaks and all of them were in the rural farming communities and none in the general urban population. This was attributed to the fact that milk consumed in the remote farming districts was exempt from the pasteurization legislation that applied to the rest of the country. But I'm sure those people who got sick were all suffering from weakened immune systems. Yeah, right.
Avoiding germs doesn’t make you healthier
Sure. Hygiene and sanitation had nothing to do with the incredible increases in life expectancy we experienced in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Doctors washing their hands with soap between deliveries did nothing to eliminate puerperal fever. Washing clothes with soap did nothing to eliminate the lice that caused typhus. Advances in bacteriology and microbiology have had nothing to do with our increased life expectancy. People living in filth are healthier because they will become naturally immune to germs. Rather than avoiding them, we should be one with them. Germs don't harm people so we really don't need antibiotics. What a bunch of crap. I can't believe I'm wasting valuable time arguing with you about this Your posts are bizarre.
Doctors washing their hands with soap between deliveries did nothing to eliminate puerperal fever.
Obviously, not all germ exposure is positive. However, we have now entered a time where paranoia reigns. The over use of antibacterial products are actually making us less healthy.
here is a quote from the CDC:The recent entry of products containing antibacterial agents into healthy households has escalated from a few dozen products in the mid-1990s to more than 700 today. Antibacterial products were developed and have been successfully used to prevent transmission of disease-causing microorganisms among patients, particularly in hospitals. They are now being added to products used in healthy households, even though an added health benefit has not been demonstrated. Scientists are concerned that the antibacterial agents will select bacteria resistant to them and cross-resistant to antibiotics. Moreover, if they alter a person’s microflora, they may negatively affect the normal maturation of the T helper cell response of the immune system to commensal flora antigens; this change could lead to a greater chance of allergies in children. As with antibiotics, prudent use of these products is urged. Their designated purpose is to protect vulnerable patients.
The whole point of the article is that the science isn’t as one sided as big brother would have you to believe and that Americans should be free to make their own food choices.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.