Posted on 08/03/2011 2:24:57 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
First the Atlantics Joshua Green quotes Congressman Barney Frank, The Tea Party people are anti-military spending to a greater extent than establishment Republicans and have a healthy dose of isolationism thanks to American intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan. The congressman adds, On this issue, they were a positive force.
Barney Frank, speaking of the warm coalition between the Tea party and the Left....
Barney Frank!!! Wow, congratulations, so that is the Congress that you envision, Barney Frank and his TP pals.
Shaking my head....
I agree with these comments, with one clarification.
You watch how this debt ceiling impacts the military. My take on it is that it will get a serious hit.
Our folks aren’t serious about what they are doing on our behalf.
When they get rolled once, it’s a mistake. When they get rolled time after time after time, you finally have to admit, they like it.
This debt ceiling was a fiasco.
I was positive about Tea Party until I went to a TP event.... made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. It was HEAVILY infiltrated by the RuPaul crowd and I don’t know what other elements. But the feeling was nothing like any patriotic or military support events, or Republican rallies, I had been to before. It was so creepy, I left after 20 minutes. I am VERY suspicious about their true agenda. I realize some sincere conservatives join up thinking the aims are pure, but they need to become informed about the key players.
The question remains whether Republican leaders were rolled by Democrats only or by additional pressure from Tea Party. Since Democrats + Tea Party would constitute a majority in the House, I’ll assume that is why defense cuts were included. And that does make it a bad deal, because Republicans vowed at the outset that defense spending was not on the table. However, with Democrats controlling the White House and the Senate, the only place Republicans have a majority is in the House... and that is dis-unified because of the Tea Party Caucus... Given all of that, I’ll say what conservatives hate to hear, the Republicans did as well as they could.
Yes, I know.
But we were getting into all different discussions points, I was just going back to the point. Or trying to.
As you know its easier to say things than type out your whole idea / point that's in your head.
It turns into a tome like War and Peace.(no pun)
That doesn’t surprise me. I am sorry to hear it though.
What we could be seeing is the Libertarians doing an end run on the public. People weren’t buying what they were selling, so now they’re trying to gain power by sneaking in under false pretenses?
My take would probably have been similar to yours.
Well..., if you think about it, if they were being rolled by the tea party with regard to military cuts and didn’t say something publicly, they really didn’t do their best.
I expect the Republicans to keep us informed on matters like his.
Let me rephrase that. It is their duty to keep us informed, but I have come to the place where I no longer expect them to.
With this I absolutely agree and we are on the same page after all. This is just one way in which the naivete of the GOP frustrates me beyond belief. And they definitely should have stuck by their original pledge to keep defense OFF the table.
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