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To: quantim

If “routine stops” are so dangerous (to our unionized “heroes”), maybe they’d save a lot of trouble by waiting to stop people until there was a darn good “non-routine” reason.

These pretext traffic stops kill policemen. And they seem to be the trigger for violence.


10 posted on 08/02/2011 10:02:44 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: Beelzebubba

Let me tell you about pretext stops.

I had a guy drop a pay phone in mid-sentence and run at the sight of my patrol car.

I would have a hard time articulating what crime he might have been committing but since I prefer to live in reality, I went down the street, turned around, and looked in the alley for him.

I was unable to find the guy, who I assumed had a big warrant or similar, and lurked in the shadows waiting for him to come back.

I wasn’t able to find him.

Had I been in the outside lane instead of the inside lane when we he ran, I would have been on his heels going down the alley.

I wasn’t, so I didn’t turn down the alley and face the ambush that was waiting for me.

4.5 hours later he was shot dead by my co-worker...his name was Maurice Clemmons and he had killed 4 officers 48 hours earlier.

That sir is not a pretextual stop, but it is basically what these officers had (per the story). That is a police officer seeing something suspicious and investigating it. It is not racial bias, profiling, a pretextual stop, or any other such non-sense.

These officers saw something suspicious and went to check it out. They paid some high prices. I can see nowhere in the article any shred of detail that would lead one to believe they did anything wrong legally or morally.

I think your take on it is wrong and you owe their memories an apology.


14 posted on 08/02/2011 10:15:06 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: Beelzebubba

You’re going to get slammed for saying that but I’m with you ,, these pretext stops to go fishing do harm the credibility of the police and foment anger and hatred for crushing our rights to be secure in our daily business.


32 posted on 08/03/2011 4:11:38 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Beelzebubba

So, instead of pulling someone over, you’d rather have cops wait until a much more serious crime is about to be committed?


40 posted on 08/03/2011 8:53:16 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Beelzebubba

I think... yup, that’s the most ignorant thing I’ve read all day.
Good job.


46 posted on 08/04/2011 5:23:48 AM PDT by ak1287
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