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How Much Land Does the Federal Government Own?
All Voices ^ | July 18, 2008

Posted on 07/27/2011 4:38:42 AM PDT by don-o

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To: listenhillary; org.whodat
Armed socialists pledge to protect “free” hunting land. How could they think of taking away our entitlement? We’ve hunted here for years.

He's cut from the same cloth as the "get the government out of my life, but make sure the SS check is in the mail" posters who we have in abundance here.

It shows what a desperate situation we have in this country and what an uphill slog we face.

61 posted on 07/27/2011 8:10:06 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: org.whodat
Common misconception. All lands in Federal control and their mineral wealth were pledged. In 32 States you do not own your private property it is all pledged. If you look closely at your vehicle registration papers in those states it says something to the effect “for official use only”.

I have searched for 20 years for the actual original papers where this was all done. I have found bits and pieces of it but I am now convinced that originals are in Paris the country that the united States of America was registered as a corporation.

Unfortunaly I will not go to Europe I will have to hire a lawyer to find them.

62 posted on 07/27/2011 8:11:20 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: triumphant values

You are a nut, was the Alaskan purchase illegal, was the louisana purchase illegal, if they were, you need to explain to the world how a government is not really an agreed on corporation of man and subject to the same laws.


63 posted on 07/27/2011 8:12:54 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

ROFLOL, the term official use only applies to the piece of paper only.


64 posted on 07/27/2011 8:14:51 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: triumphant values

No it shows you are one of those conspiracy nuts and really have no idea why we have a government at all.


65 posted on 07/27/2011 8:16:32 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: org.whodat
I think it was entirely legal for the US government to purchase Alaska.

And I think what the government did after that was to sell some of the land to US citizens. That was also legal and reasonable. I'd just like to see some more of that part taking place, that's all.

66 posted on 07/27/2011 8:16:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

They gave away land for years in Alaska, I believe the program is still in place, you need to go there and try it. Just meet the year to year requirements and enjoy. Just remember there are no roads and you need to make the cabin real small and the same for the doors to keep the bears out and the heat in and that out door johnny at -40 degrees will really stimulate you. But no one will sell you a choice hundred acres in the Cherokee national forests for 50 dollars an acre.


67 posted on 07/27/2011 8:33:46 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: org.whodat
Yea don't believe it if you want. Go look at the little sticker and tell me what it says in watermark. It is the only explanation for several actions by the Government is the last 70 years.
68 posted on 07/27/2011 8:40:14 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: org.whodat
But no one will sell you a choice hundred acres in the Cherokee national forests for 50 dollars an acre.

Nice straw man. No one has made such a claim.

The point is that in many states, there is a great deal of land owned by the federal government (and state governments) and that it may be reasonable for some of that land to be put on the market to sell at market value.

The government gets immediate revenue.
The government is off the hook for maintenance costs.
The land might well be used for profitable business, thereby generating actual tax revenue.

Most folks arent' saying that we need to "sell Yosemite" or "sell Mr. Rushmore". But there are lands that could be put to good use and the government withholds them from the market.

People who think the government should be smaller may also think that the government should own less land.

69 posted on 07/27/2011 8:40:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

During the Carter Administration, over 56 million acres of oil-rich Alaskan wilderness was appropriated by the executive branch and slapped with the “monument” label.


70 posted on 07/27/2011 8:48:38 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: ClearCase_guy

ROFLOL, no there is not, there is only someone wanting a slice of cronyism, there is no shortage of lands for your to buy, go find some. As a matter of fact I would bet there are hundreds of acres within fifty miles of where you live, when there is a shortage of land let me know. I have already pointed out there are thousands of acres available in the rust belt. Go buy some and start that business.


71 posted on 07/27/2011 8:52:13 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: org.whodat
Are you attempting to inform me that there are private landowners who live near me who would be willing to sell me their land?

Thanks.

But I think this thread is about the government and how it takes useful land out of circulation, thereby harming the national economy.

72 posted on 07/27/2011 8:57:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The government does not take useful land out of usage and the government sells land all the time, many former military bases are industrial parks. What this is about is nuts wanting to steal land off of the tax payers. And they are never will to say what and or where is the land they want, because it shows them for what they are.


73 posted on 07/27/2011 9:08:24 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: sayuncledave
I find no good reason for the government to justify owning so much land.

Collateral for all the gubmint borrowing. It is becoming clear that that is why we are being shut out of "federal" actually "public," lands. Land with timber on it or mineral under it is far more valuable than bare, mined out land.

74 posted on 07/27/2011 9:09:18 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: org.whodat
You are a nut, was the Alaskan purchase illegal, was the louisana purchase illegal, if they were, you need to explain to the world how a government is not really an agreed on corporation of man and subject to the same laws.

I'm a nut? This sentence, like a few others of yours on this thread isn't even coherent.

75 posted on 07/27/2011 9:19:02 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: org.whodat
No it shows you are one of those conspiracy nuts and really have no idea why we have a government at all.

Yeah, I'm a conspiracy nut engaged in a conspiracy to take away your hunting land. Booga, booga.

The cheese has slid right off your cracker on this thread.

76 posted on 07/27/2011 9:21:32 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: don-o

Having lived in Oregon and Idaho, I have discussed this very issue for the last 30 years. With a population of 330 million today, the federal government has no right to own and control all this land. In states where the feds own more than 2% of the land, I suggest they sell 2%/year until they reach the 2% of total level. We don’t have just 10 million people in the country wanting to own land anymore. Time for real change and less gov’t intrusion.


77 posted on 07/27/2011 9:22:54 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: triumphant values
If you're of the persuasion that argues that something the Fed Gov is doing is constitutional because the Fed Gov courts said so, then you are on the way, way wrong website for your philosophy.

Game

Set

Match

That OUGHTA leave a mark..

78 posted on 07/27/2011 9:42:41 AM PDT by don-o (Abolish FReepathons. Be a monthly donor.)
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To: opentalk

Not to mention areas of shale, timber, coal, minerals, and offshore natural resources we should be going after. All shut down by the federal government.


79 posted on 07/27/2011 9:56:30 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: jimnm

Most of “that land” has usage control treaties that were signed with the United Nations. Too late to get it back now.


80 posted on 07/27/2011 9:57:35 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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