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To: odds

Interesting! One often wonders how much misery the world would have been spared if certain other people with what was clearly NPD had either snapped first and done something that resulted in their removal from society or been diagnosed and put away before they could do any harm: people ranging from Mohammed to Napoleon to Hitler and beyond.

All of them thought they were special people and specially annointed by Fate and thus were beyond the strictures that applied to normal human beings. They appear to have been sane enough to capitalize on these things politically, or perhaps they just happened to come along at the right time, when the societies around them were so chaotic or weak that they were able to gather followers.

I think the thing that confuses some people is that there are things they believe Breivik was correct in saying. But aside from the fact that virtually anything that sounds sane in “his” manifesto was literally taken from the writings of other people (IIRC, about 2/3 of its 1500 pages are quotes from other people’s work), that particular type of insanity does seem to be very much prone to attach itself to a cause.

Paranoid schizophrenics are in their own world of fear and anger and are genuinely reacting to something they think is a threat to them, even though it is literally a hallucination; but people with NPD need a stage and an entire drama to highlight them.

Eric Becker, in one of his excellent books, commented that during the French Revolution (during the Terror, particularly), the mental asylums were emptied out and nobody noticed the difference, because suddenly all the lunatics had attached themselves to a violent cause where their insane behavior then appeared perfectly normal.


18 posted on 07/26/2011 5:05:08 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

>>>”I think the thing that confuses some people is that there are things they believe Breivik was correct in saying.”<<<

Our MSM contributes to that confusion, imo, thru their own interpretations & dissemination of them. Though MSM may also argue that what they disseminate are *core* messages of what Breivik said (or *meant*), without further elaboration on the specifics... until, later..

Thanks for mentioning Eric Becker’s book, what is it called? I’d be interested in reading it.

Re: NPD & Breivik, there was an inkling about that on Sunday. But, I’m still very keen to see what the “official assessment” says. Though, details of it may be kept confidential.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2752932/posts?page=142#142


21 posted on 07/26/2011 5:27:05 AM PDT by odds
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To: livius
Schama also mentions that in his book on the French Revolution Citizens. Towards the end of that massive book , he mentions that the once emptied asylums now (post Napoleonic era) had people in it that were no longer capable of living in "non revolutionary" society. "Revolutionary insanity" it was called, and a description was included of a woman who as late as 1823 was still given to chanting revolutionary slogans and giving pro revolution speeches to bored or uncomprehending fellow inmates .
25 posted on 07/26/2011 8:41:41 AM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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