Skip to comments.The Clinton Tapes and TWA Flight 800
Posted on 07/19/2011 11:09:24 PM PDT by STARWISE
About once a month over the course of his presidency Bill Clinton would unburden himself to Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Taylor Branch.
Last year, Branch published the taped revelations, heavily edited and embellished with his own commentary, in an overpraised but useful volume called The Clinton Tapes.
I say overpraised because anyone who knows the underside of the Clinton White House can see how Branch allowed, even encouraged, Clinton to spin a selectively remembered, self-absolving account of his presidency.
I say useful because every now and then Branch caught up with Clinton before the White House has had a chance to shape the narrative.
For instance, Branch scheduled a visit with Clinton for the night of April 19, 1995. Earlier that day, a truck bomb took out the Murrah building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people, most of them federal workers.
Clinton shocked Branch by keeping his appointment. The two old friends talked for hours. The phrase painful loss came up between them only in reference to the Arkansas defeat in the NCAA basketball tournament.
Clinton spent but a few minutes on Oklahoma City. The reader learns that the only person Clinton spoke to at the scene was Oklahomas right-wing Republican governor, Frank Keating. Thats it.
Branch returned to a more cheerful White House a month later. He opens this chapter with a revealing sentence: Oklahoma City did not lead overseas as President Clinton had feared, but domestic terror did spawn confusion and denial.
This translates: Clinton did not want the investigation to lead overseas especially when he could exploit the two white, right wing suspectsTimothy McVeigh and Terry Nicholsfor all their political capital.
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I'll go to my grave believing there were massive govt coverups for Waco, Oklahoma City and TWA 800 .. and likely the first WTC bombing .. by despicable, deceptive and cunning dems for personal/political considerations. There'll be another justice ....
Article link for Jack Cashill:
That was in his best selling book, I believe.
I thought Clarke also claimed to be the one who came up with the "center fuel tank" explosion thing. Is the massive recall of 747's finished? Wot? There was no recall to inspect for the serious flaw that killed hundreds? They're just going to let the 747s go Boom!
This past Sunday Mr. Cashill was on KSFO San Francisco Barbara Simpson show.
I am sure it was Mr. Cashill and not a caller who mentioned the cable TV and the video of the incident -- the video that some "suits" showed up and took every copy and warned the TV employees to keep quiet or else. The cable TV I think Cashill said was MSNBC which had just started.
I am sure it was Cashill who said the above but it may have been a caller who claimed to have seen that video in China -- several times.
I think the video showed the rocket(s) tracking the plane and the explosions.
She has always claimed that her bosses knew more than they said publicly. She and a number of other TWA employees quit the company in protest of this fact hiding.
If you want to read a fascinating novel based around the Flight 800 Tragedy, try Nelson DeMille's Nightfall. The main characters are a retired NYPD detective and his FBI agent wife, who was a part of the original investigation team. On the fifth anniversary of the explosion, she is meeting with family members of some of the victims and stumbles upon a possible lead in the case. They eventually track down this lead, which will blow the investigation wide open and stun the world. But they first have to pit themselves against a rogue CIA agent (or ex-agent, depending on which of his stories you want to believe) who'd helped bury the evidence five years earlier and will do anything to keep the secret from coming to the light of day.
A friend of my who lives in NYC said that far more Middle Eastern people left the country in a panic after the '93 incident than in 2001. I haven't ever been able to figure out whether that was true or not but he swears by it.
Dollars to donuts that Jamie Gorelick was involved somehow.
She’s a fixture in every scandal.
Just how MANY times did Mrs. Clinton say “I Can’t Recall” before she wrote her memoirs?
A friend of mine said he saw the missle track on the 1st report of the evenig news, then it was pulled. I’ve always thought that the plane that went down shortly after take off and blamed on some used oxygen containers was actually a terrorist act.
THE THIRD TERRORIST
The Middle East Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing
by Jayna Davis
Foreward by David P. Schippers
You aren’t the only one.
Interesting surmises. Clinton certainly did kick the can down the road on terrorism on his watch. His non-response just encouraged Al Qaeda to plan bigger and bigger attacks because they thought the US would not respond.
So, they acquired ONE stinger? And shot down ONE plane? And didn’t admit to it? They couldn’t have acquired 2 or 4 of 6 stingers and attacked multiple targets at once, like a intelligent terrorist?
“.. and likely the first WTC bombing .. “
A friend of my who lives in NYC said that far more Middle Eastern people left the country in a panic after the ‘93 incident than in 2001. I haven’t ever been able to figure out whether that was true or not but he swears by it.”
Yep, they ended up in Michigan and not just Dearborn, either.
The name to follow is Dietrich (Dieter) Snell. Google his name and see what you come up with.
And I heard her name mentioned, I think here, as a replacement for Holder if he should be forced out.
..that's why she is known as "The Mistress of Disaster" in DC circles
But if it were a terrorist attack, some group (or many) would have taken credit for it proudly. The same for OKC.
That nothing has come out after 15 years leads me to dismiss the conspiracy theories, though. It does still nag . . .
The Navy was mentioned as to firing missiles that night and the possible shoot down. The one sure thing is the center fuel tank did not explode on its own!
Maybe there were others that got caught, but not the one that got the TWA flight? Some of these terrorists are not known for being very bright.
PRIME EVIDENCE FOUND THAT DEVICE EXPLODED IN CABIN OF FLIGHT 800
By DON VAN NATTA Jr
Published: August 23, 1996
The White House prevailed on FBI honcho James Kallstrom to ignore the undeniable missile evidence and reassemble the plane.
More than a year later, an uneasy Kallstrom would write the explosion off as a mechanical failure.
Along with his Flt. 800 fantasy, Kallstrom's insistence during the Washington Sniper reign of terror that "white supremacists" were the perps cured me of believing ANYTHING he says or has said. IMO, this man has no credibility at all.
My uncle was one of the lead mechanics for TWA and says no way was it a center fuel tank explosion.
Dittos! I also don’t believe for a minute that the Navy was involved in any way in TWA 800...but isn’t it just like libs to try and blame our own military? These people are truly despicable.
Me too. We were NOT told the truth. My thought however, has always been to a stray from the Perseid meteor shower that peaked around the date of the Flt. 800 disaster. I've seen meteors crest the horizon of the Atlantic ocean (from LI) at or near sunset on two occassions. The descriptions by the witnesses were a perfect fit to what I have observed. jmo
Coincidentally, I know someone who was almost directly under the plane that crashed in the Rockaways a month after 9/11. His story, which he said he told to the FBI-twice, does not agree with the official explaination of that crash.
There were WAY TOO many witnesses regarding flight 800 who saw something rising from the sea that took out that flight.
I call BS on that one.
Gorelick has been floated as the next FBI chief.
I never, ever saw or heard of that info from the slimes.
I’m sure it was blasted all over the air waves ...
acknowledged, pursued, analyzed and discussed mightily by the Clintonites, intel agencies, pundits and lamestreams .......... /S!
“While the new finding provides evidence that the plane was destroyed by an explosive device, a senior official noted that PETN, or pentaerythritol tetranitrate, was an explosive component commonly found in many bombs and surface-to-air missiles, making it impossible, for now, to know for sure which type of explosive device destroyed the Boeing 747, killing all 230 people aboard.”
Kallstrom sold his soul ....
My son and I also saw the tape on TV before it was pulled and never mentioned again.
Yes but how would you know whether a group took credit? The willing Dem press?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOMORROW BRO!
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