[jpsb]

Lol, we only control the House and could lose that in 2012 if we are not careful. Who ever makes the cuts needed to restore fiscal sanity we get pummeled at the polls next election. The Marxists are demigoding this issue and with just about half the country getting a government check the demigoding will work. Fools rush in where wisemen fear to tread. Conservatives are not yet strong enough to fight this fight, take what you can get an live to fight another day. I don't see this as a cave in at all, I see the GOP playing smart for a change.

Also at some point the markets will solve our spending problems.

[tennmountainman]

Lol, we only control the House and could lose that in 2012 if we are not careful

The only that will be lost in 2012 is a bunch of RINO’s.
Conservatives are in a foul mood!

[Big E]

“Who ever makes the cuts needed to restore fiscal sanity we get pummeled at the polls next election.”

Well, what’s the point of holding the House, then? If the GOP is going to raise the debt ceiling based on some cuts 10 years from now, which everyone knows will never happen, what’s the point of the GOP being in charge? If the Democrats were in charge, we’d get a debt ceiling increase.

Furthermore, if the GOP controls the House, Senate, and the Presidency, and they believe they’ll all be defeated next election if they cut government and put us back on sound fiscal footing, they’re not going to do it then either. Seems to me, you’re either going to do the right thing and make the cuts, and then worry about winning the next election later, or you’re just going to do what every other spineless politician has done, pass it off to the next generation to clean up the mess.