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“If the experience of those few other states and countries where this is already law is any indication, the churches, and believers, will soon be harassed, threatened, and hauled into court for their conviction that marriage is between one man, one woman, forever, bringing children into the world,” wrote the archbishop.

Zero would put us in gulags tomorrow if he thought he could get away with it.

1 posted on 07/08/2011 12:31:35 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 07/08/2011 12:33:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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It’s going to come to blood.


3 posted on 07/08/2011 12:33:53 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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4 posted on 07/08/2011 12:33:57 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Maybe the hierarchy should have spoken more forcefully in previous elections, not on the eve of this vote; they might change a few minds if they assertively state that people are endangering their immortal souls by openly defying God on something He spoke quite forcefully about.


5 posted on 07/08/2011 12:34:32 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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I believe it. Absolutely.


7 posted on 07/08/2011 12:36:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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This goes along with what you and I were talking about the other day.
10 posted on 07/08/2011 12:38:28 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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This is the whole point behind the left backing “gay rights” -

the criminalization of Christianity.

The left/commies couldn’t care less about the homos, they’re just a weapon or tool. And when the commies accomplish their goals, they’ll be “discarded”.


12 posted on 07/08/2011 12:39:12 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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The “gay marriage” push is simply about being able to punish with state power those who won’t buy into the statists and homosexualists ever devolving take on marriage.

Freegards


14 posted on 07/08/2011 12:41:27 PM PDT by Ransomed
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My mother had the best reply when she was asked if she backed homosexual marriage: “My spirit does not accept that.”


15 posted on 07/08/2011 12:41:43 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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It’s coming. If I want to hear the truth from my Pastor, I’ll have to visit him in jail. he’s already told us that’s where he will be if the government out laws any part of the Gospel.


16 posted on 07/08/2011 12:42:11 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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I personally know a priest who will die before ever giving in on this issue or ever “ marry “ any of these deeply troubled people.


21 posted on 07/08/2011 12:47:30 PM PDT by warsaw44
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Tolerance for the perverts but not for the Believers. Its a one way street only.


27 posted on 07/08/2011 12:52:47 PM PDT by rbg81
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I had this conversation with my former pastor, who is biblically rock-solid when it comes to this issue. He didn't take it seriously. "This is America" and all that rot. But persecution is coming fast, now.

And yes, it will end in blood.

BTW, I'm a Protestant. Heck, I'm a Calvinist Protestant. But in this I will stand with my Catholic brothers and sisters 100%. Nothing makes me more passionate than uniting with Christians to defend the Word of God and His Church!

28 posted on 07/08/2011 12:53:01 PM PDT by jboot
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I agree with the Archbishop to the extent that this could happen but I don't think the 225,000,000 Americans calling themselves 'Christian' will be readily intimidated into bowing down to homosexual demands to make the refusal to recognize 'gay marriage into a criminal offense. I'm not saying this could never happen - look at the sorry state we're in today - just that Christians (even the nominal ones) are 75% of the U.S. population. However, 40 years ago homosexual behavior was considered a mental illness and something decent people avoided talking (or thinking) about, so anything can happen when a society decides to ignore God's law and embrace hedonism. In that sense, Archbishop Dalton's warning may be prophetic and is well taken.
32 posted on 07/08/2011 12:57:19 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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I do not what hole in the ground most people have their head stuck in but people are already being punished by the state for holding beliefs against gay marriage or against the views the left-wing has on homosexuality. People have been fired from jobs for not holding left-wing beliefs, businesses have been punished by Courts for being against left-wing views on homosexuality as well. So why in the world would anyone think that the Church will end up any different being the way many on the left hate Christianity?

It amazes that anyone can doubt the 100% fascist agenda of the left-wing homosexual movement. They will not accept any freedom of expression on this issue nor will they ever have tolerance for Christianity or traditional values. Those who do not start fighting back on this issue full force are setting our children up to be under the rule of a evil and perverse fascist movement.


41 posted on 07/08/2011 1:08:15 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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“The archbishop insisted the Church’s position was “never anti-gay.””

This is why they fail. There is no such thing as a state of “being gay”. Gay is a desire for abnormal destructive behavior. Being anti-gay is good.


42 posted on 07/08/2011 1:10:12 PM PDT by Varda
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Yep, part of plot to outlaw Christianity and morality.


43 posted on 07/08/2011 1:11:15 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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The Government can pass all the laws they want. Perverts will always be perverts.


44 posted on 07/08/2011 1:15:56 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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THOUGHTCRIME

Brought to you by the Lavender Mafia using Gaystapo tactics.

Orwell was off by a few years.

47 posted on 07/08/2011 1:20:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask Barack Obama this election if he believes Jesus Christ rose from the dead and walked among men.)
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Unjustified Government involvement in marriage needs to be ended.


48 posted on 07/08/2011 1:21:19 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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