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Minnesota Shutdown Hits Poor; Aid Groups Scramble (Here comes the sob stories and "blame the GOP")
npr ^ | 7/1/2011 | staff

Posted on 07/01/2011 3:29:52 PM PDT by tobyhill

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To: Lancey Howard

Hey, that gives me an idea - how about a stste constitutional amendment that say the state cannot collect taxes during any period when the government is shut down due to a lack of budget, and cannot collect them retroactively?


61 posted on 07/01/2011 4:58:31 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: tobyhill
But after the shutdown, she also has to care for her six youngest children, ages 3 through 14, because she lost state funding for their day-care and other programs.

If you add in the monthly food stamps, housing subsidy, free clothing, utilities assistance, medical care, etc. she just might be one of those rich people the rats are always wanting to tax more. Wonder if she has a corpoate jet?
62 posted on 07/01/2011 5:07:17 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Obama makes me yearn for the good ol' days of Carter.)
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To: nascarnation

I myself just mastered the art and science of $0.50 pot pie. After a 10 hour workday and spending $6/gas driving home, pop a microwaveable kind in for 5 minutes, add half a can of beef stew or chicken and dumplings - $1/can- and with a little cheese melted in you got some right nice grub for $1.00.


63 posted on 07/01/2011 5:07:20 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: tobyhill
Yeah, I know. I just happened to pull it from your post. Compared to the rest of the world, there are no poor people in the US. I know middle class professional people in Columbia who don't have hot water in their homes. I've seen small children in Mexico City combing the city dumps looking for food. Yet America's 'poor' have electricity, TV, cable, A/C, hot water, food, gas stoves, washer & dryer, and cell phones.

If I were in charge, the first thing I would do is stop giving food stamps to fat people.

64 posted on 07/01/2011 5:07:33 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: txhurl

I believe practical economic skills are sadly lacking in the inner city.
If anybody’s hungry/poorly nourished, it’s because of poor choices and lack of common sense.


65 posted on 07/01/2011 5:11:57 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: txhurl

That was my point. All those benefits an the kids are probably eating crap....


66 posted on 07/01/2011 5:23:15 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: USMCPOP

Agree.... Big families are good things if you can care for em.....yourself.

Stay safe.


67 posted on 07/01/2011 5:44:02 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: tobyhill

Tax deadlines still in place during Minnesota shutdown
Associated Press

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Despite the Minnesota government shutdown, you still have to pay your state taxes. But don’t expect to receive any tax refunds for now.

http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_18392785

typical. goobermint employees get a vacation, but you’d better keep working.


68 posted on 07/01/2011 5:57:44 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: blueyon

maybe she’s trying to become the next “octomom” celebrity.


69 posted on 07/01/2011 6:03:05 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: tobyhill

Raking in $43,200/yr., Sonya Mills is raising chillun for fun and profit.


70 posted on 07/01/2011 6:04:57 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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Dayton’s cynical shutdown
Minneapolis Star Tribune ^ | 6/18/11 | Jonathan Blake

Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:54:32 PM by rhema

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Dayton’s plan is appalling — not only for the services it deems “critical” but, more important, for those it does not. For example, the governor plans to stop all aid payments to schools.

Additionally, health care providers who serve Minnesotans on medical assistance will also go without payment. And at a legislative hearing this week, an administration official acknowledged that bridge assessments also did not make Dayton’s list, apparently failing to meet the governor’s “critical service” standard.

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Dayton is hiding behind the state’s courts and Constitution to justify a cynical and draconian plan motivated more by politics than principle. For evidence, contrast Dayton’s shutdown plan with those that preceded it.

Contingency planning for a government shutdown is nothing new to this state. Gov. Tim Pawlenty developed one prior to the state’s 10-day partial shutdown in 2005, and Gov. Jesse Ventura planned for a shutdown that was ultimately averted in 2001.

A comparison of the plans is telling. Dayton has deemed as “critical” not only his media and communications staff, but also staff at his official residence. Among those employed at the governor’s mansion are Dayton’s chef and gardener.

In 2001, by comparison, Ventura planned to all but shutter the mansion. Aid payments to schools? They were included in the Ventura and Pawlenty plans.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2736723/posts


71 posted on 07/01/2011 6:08:41 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: tobyhill

The useless female gets $3,600 a month because she can’t figure out how to get free birth control pills. Screw that. The least she can do is clean out pig stys for $3,600 a month.

This country is filled up with too many fat-ass liberal females whose sole purpose is to dump kids on us she expects normal people to support. Enough. If you’re dumping more than one kid on society and expect support, you can’t vote. That will destroy the fascist Rat party.


72 posted on 07/01/2011 6:29:06 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: Squantos

My Dad was the oldest of 11. He was seven when the depression hit. They never took government handouts. A few of his siblings have 7, 8, 9 kids. No welfare. They did take $ from the GI bill after WW2 and studied their butts off. I think 5 of the 11 became engineers.


73 posted on 07/01/2011 6:35:57 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: tobyhill
In the absence of talks between Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and GOP legislative leaders, the shutdown was rippling into the lives of people like Sonya Mills, a 39-year-old mother of eight facing the loss of about $3,600 a month in state child care subsidies.

Then Governor Goofy should have signed any of the three balanced budgets the Republican legislature provided him.

74 posted on 07/01/2011 6:37:30 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama are not rivals, they're running mates." - Rep. Thaddeus McCotter)
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To: USMCPOP

Yer Dad earned that in blood an sweat ....

Anyone who claims GI bill or retirement pay is welfare is an idiot.

Kick their ass or try...:o)

Hope yer well an get time to celebrate this nations independence day with family, friends an fellow patriots who still love this county.

Stay Safe...


75 posted on 07/01/2011 6:59:45 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Hoodat
Excuse me, but someone making $43,000/yr from the state is not poor. And that's before you add in AFDC, WIC vouchers, Section 8 vouchers, food stamps, etc. When all that is totaled, she is probably pulling in six figures. Poor? Yeah, right.

Now we are getting somewhere. The real picture!

Why do you suppose teenaged girls today are in such a hurry to be 'single moms'?? Because it's one of the best paying easiest jobs they can find. And they get to party like whores to get on the bread wagon.

This Country is getting exactly what it's been paying for. The Government has been paying to destroy the traditional family and work incentive since Johnson's 'Great Society Program". Johnson didn't declare 'War On Poverty'! He declared war on traditional American values. After 50 years, he's won! We're now becoming an immoral Marxist state.

76 posted on 07/01/2011 7:10:14 PM PDT by CharlyFord
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To: tobyhill

Read the comments section of that article to understand why the state is in such a mess.


77 posted on 07/01/2011 7:27:14 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: tobyhill

Minnesota - It is becoming the Illinois of the Midwest.


78 posted on 07/01/2011 7:31:39 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: tobyhill
I had never felt comfortable with the stigma that was attached to a single woman with a child, this by the previous generation to mine. The only thing to be said for it was that so many men were forced to face their obligations.

Many a marriage turned out nicely between a man and a woman who HAD to get married. It was far easier to get the "Dad" and make him pay. Unfortunately the new ways of glossing over the state of non-marriage, seems to have brought UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

The recalcitrant begger goes free to impregnate other women. Laughing his backside off, as society looks after his offspring.

79 posted on 07/01/2011 7:35:25 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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80 posted on 07/01/2011 7:35:55 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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