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Two Students Yanked Out of Line at Graduation For Wearing Military Sashes
Fox News via You Tube ^ | June 013, 2011 | swampsniper

Posted on 06/13/2011 2:57:33 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

As the grandfather of a recent Fort Benning graduate now at Fort Gordon for advanced training this really sticks in my craw.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: military; students
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1 posted on 06/13/2011 2:57:44 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Hm, interesting and kinda odd story.


2 posted on 06/13/2011 3:03:04 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
“Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition”

This is not the America of 911 or earlier.

3 posted on 06/13/2011 3:04:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I find that my contempt for the standard education gauleiter only grows as I get older, even long after graduation from the force fed propaganda camps called “schools”.


4 posted on 06/13/2011 3:04:47 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I can see a problem where if you agree they can do it...then a number of folks will pull out odd-ball symbols to wear...and demand the same respect. High school graduation is for one purpose...walk in and get the certificate and walk out. It’s not a symbol or worth turning into some life-transformation activity.


5 posted on 06/13/2011 3:06:41 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

It sticks in mine also. As the young man said, they enlisted in the military and are putting their lives on the line for our country, they were not trying to wear a sash for some college they’re going to.


6 posted on 06/13/2011 3:06:49 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I saw on TV the other day a story about a high school honoring those headed to the military, not college or work. They said they were the ONLY high school in the United States, to their knowledge that were doing this. Did anyone else see that?


7 posted on 06/13/2011 3:08:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("We didn't lose Vietnam. We quit Vietnam." ~Gen. Al Haig)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
That is so weird. My young friend just graduated last week and received an appointment to the Naval Academy and wore a cord given to him for his appointment.
8 posted on 06/13/2011 3:08:50 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Sticks in your craw?

Why?

The graduation ceremony is just that.....celebrating the students who have completed high school.

It is not intended to recognize future aspirations.

Would you like to see sashes for every college logo for those who have been accepted?

How about company logos for those with jobs?

There are ways to recognize recruits...graduation should not be one.

9 posted on 06/13/2011 3:09:29 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Psycho Libs in Academia.... They hate the military.


10 posted on 06/13/2011 3:11:18 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: pepsionice

I didn’t waste my time going to mine. They mailed my diploma to me.


11 posted on 06/13/2011 3:13:32 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: diogenes ghost

Should students be allowed to wear armbands in school?


12 posted on 06/13/2011 3:17:39 PM PDT by bvw
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To: diogenes ghost
Would you like to see sashes for every college logo for those who have been accepted?

Yes. I think that would be pretty neat to see the grads that have the foresight to further their education.

And apparently members of the National Honor Society can wear the sash.

13 posted on 06/13/2011 3:18:19 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: pepsionice
High school graduation is for one purpose...walk in and get the certificate and walk out.

Good point and very sensible. It would seem that an exception could be made for the military because of the military's unique contributions, but then where would it stop?

As you said, every odd-ball in the graduating class would then want the same freedom. An anti-war activist might want to wear a "stop all wars" sign around his neck. The president of the drama club might want to go dressed as Shakespeare. Sounds far-fetched, but remember you're dealing with teenagers.

14 posted on 06/13/2011 3:20:10 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: diogenes ghost

“It is not intended to recognize future aspirations.”

Then why are National Honor Society students allowed to wear sashes to the same graduation ceremony?

High school IS preparation for future aspirations.
Graduation IS recognition of that preparation.

OS


15 posted on 06/13/2011 3:22:40 PM PDT by Old Student
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To: diogenes ghost
The Supreme Court has already said that students can wear black armbands as a form of protest.

In Tinker, perhaps the best known of the Court's student speech cases, the Court found that the First Amendment protected the right of high school students to wear black armbands in a public high school, as a form of protest against the Viet Nam War. The Court ruled that this symbolic speech--"closely akin to pure speech"--could only be prohibited by school administrators if they could show that it would cause a substantial disruption of the school's educational mission.
Personally, I find that ruling out of bounds. The Principal in a school, the Teacher in a classroom, the Captain of a ship, all have close to non-reviewable authority in their decisions over ordinary things of managing the arena in which they operate.

Free speech is NOT the mission of a school. Nor did the would the Founders ever have intended the First Amendment to apply in a classroom.

16 posted on 06/13/2011 3:24:09 PM PDT by bvw
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
He couldn't do it his way so he decided not to do it?

He's gonna get along real good in the military.

17 posted on 06/13/2011 3:24:18 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The public shouldn't be funding education let alone graduation ceremonies.

18 posted on 06/13/2011 3:24:26 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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One of the boys was on Fox and Friends this a.m. He was so polite - he stressed that he did not want to disrupt the ceremony, so he just went to sit with his family.

He showed great class. Too bad the school did not.


19 posted on 06/13/2011 3:27:36 PM PDT by Joann37
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When a soldier graduates from basic training, he wears the Army uniform; when a Marine graduates from boot camp, he wears the Marine Corps uniform. Neither uniform includes a sash from the service member's civilian alma mater, nor should it. In similar fashion, a school's cap and gown should be respected as the appropriate uniform for graduation.

That said, SwampSniper, I know you're very proud of your grandson. So am I. Semper Fidelis...

20 posted on 06/13/2011 3:31:00 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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