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1 posted on 06/13/2011 12:52:50 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
"In Hindu stories it was a tree being humbled, in North American Indian folklore it was a great flood, in east Africa it was starvation-induced madness, in the Amazon it was stolen hummingbird eggs and in aboriginal Australia it was a goddess’ gift of play for children."

Karen, you intentionally left out God created Adam and Eve with the ability to communicate not only with each other, but with God as well ....


You friggin' pagan,

2 posted on 06/13/2011 12:57:12 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Ping to you...


3 posted on 06/13/2011 12:58:32 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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“To that end, a group of five Swedish researchers are set to spend more than a week in Minnesota, a northerly mid-western state known to be a part of the heartland for Swedish-American communities, to conduct interview with anyone they can find who speaks Swedish.”

A week, compared to the years that Vilhelm Moberg lived in Chisago Lakes MN, Monterey CA and Laguna Beach CA, studying and writing?

And then went back to Sweden and killed himself.

One way the Swedish language changed on the North American continent was: Patronymic surnames were made more “American”

For example, “Andreasson” first became “Andersson” and then later “Anderson”

The earliest group from Sweden came in the 1600s.

The big emigration from Sweden to Minnesota began in the 1850s. Read Moberg.

My greatgrandmother came in 1861, age 8. To Chisago.

My great grandfather came in 1870, age 25.


6 posted on 06/13/2011 1:14:21 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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Why none of the usual photos of hot blonde chix? I don’t get it...


7 posted on 06/13/2011 1:20:38 PM PDT by gaijin
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9 posted on 06/13/2011 1:25:36 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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I am of Swedish descent, but I am NOT Swedish American! My Swedish ancestors immigrated in 1904 to Maine and they forbade their children from speaking Swedish even at home and so it was lost. They wanted their family to assimilate and become true Americans and my Great-Grandfather believed that was part of how to accomplish it. I understand the family’s reasoning, but it’s unfortunate for generations after that would have liked that connection to our history.


12 posted on 06/13/2011 1:39:41 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Still searching for the new tagline!)
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To: WesternCulture
I hope they had competent language experts, like THIS LADY.
13 posted on 06/13/2011 1:43:21 PM PDT by Maceman (Obama: As American as nasei goreng)
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When I lived in Sweden (2000-2004) I took Swedish class for immigrants, and was very happy to see so many words that were either close to the same or same pronunciation as English, even if they were spelled differently; “kom hem” instead of “come home” for example. I read a book about the origins of the English language, and so much of the basic stuff came from the Vikings, and so forgiving the 1000 years in between, many words were close in both languages. I especially liked finally understanding why some English words make no sense, such as the silent k in knife and knock (”k-niv” and “k-nock” in Swedish) as well as the ever elusive “w” in “two” (tva—though I can’t add accents on my keyboard).
It was very enlightening! (though I know you know all of this Western Culture!)


15 posted on 06/13/2011 1:53:16 PM PDT by Rutabega
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To: WesternCulture

Ping


17 posted on 06/13/2011 1:57:42 PM PDT by Viiksitimali
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They are going to be talking to very old people. My family is all from eastern North Dakota and none of the younger generations speaks Swedish, Norwegian, or German. That group of immigrants were true pioneers who bought into the American experiment.

I find it funny that when the Swedes voted with their feet that the homeland had to reform. If we lose Federalism in the US you can be sure that a lot of people won’t vote with their feet by moving to another state, they will leave the friggin country!


18 posted on 06/13/2011 2:00:21 PM PDT by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams?)
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Recently watched the “Girl Who” movies in Swedish with subtitles. (Very good, BTW. The girl in question, just a little bit of a thing, is quite believable as a badass who WILL kick your fanny.)

Hadn’t really heard much Swedish before despite being at least 1/4 Swede.

I was quite amazed that Swedish “sounds” so much like English. If you can’t make out the individual words, it sounds very much like English.

German, French, Italian, Spanish etc. all have a very distinctive sound and you can tell someone is speaking each of those languages even when you can’t hear the words. But not Swedish.


20 posted on 06/13/2011 2:02:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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"...And to hear how they spoke after living there for a few decades, well that’s really cool data if you’re into this,” Nilsson says."

Cool data? This specialized scientific terminology always throws me for a loop.

21 posted on 06/13/2011 2:11:06 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: WesternCulture; Cletus.D.Yokel
Swedes who emigrated to the United States in the late 1800s – they were still alive. And to hear how they spoke after living there for a few decades. . . .

My grandmother came over to America in the 1890s as a girl, my grandfather came over in 1902 as a young man. They both lived until the early 1970s (when I was in my late teens), and they both spoke with a Swedish accent, my grandfather especially so.

By 1910, Chicago had become the Swedish-American capital, with more than 100,000 immigrants making it the second largest Swedish city in the world, next to Stockholm.

That number included my granparents. There is a nice Swedish-American Museum on the north side of the city (where I grew up), devoted to the Swedish migration to Chicago.

Minnesota remains by a wide-margin the state with the most inhabitants of Swedish descent—9.6 percent of the population as of 2005.

Perhaps by percentage, Minnesota would be the largest. But in terms of absolute numbers, I would say Illinois.

26 posted on 06/13/2011 2:58:55 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Swedish-American, born and raised in Chicago)
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To: 1234; A knight without armor; AIM-54; Allan; american colleen; AndyPH; anguish; AzSteven; ...
Ping to the Swedish Ping List.
28 posted on 06/13/2011 3:00:50 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Swedish Ping List master)
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links for some reading on the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_language

go the link and then click on the “PDF” link, at: http://epubl.ltu.se/1402-1773/2007/085/

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_language

This one is interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYmIE4jW4C0

And this was an interesting discussion:
http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t12914.htm


43 posted on 06/13/2011 4:58:38 PM PDT by Wuli
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Why no mention of New Sweden, Sweden's colony in Delaware, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania along the Delaware River Estuary?
44 posted on 06/13/2011 5:40:27 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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“In Hindu stories it was a tree being humbled, in North American Indian folklore it was a great flood, in east Africa it was starvation-induced madness, in the Amazon it was stolen hummingbird eggs and in aboriginal Australia it was a goddess’ gift of play for children.”

flowery tales told around the campfire to children (and anthropologists) should never be taken seriously.


48 posted on 09/05/2011 3:51:17 AM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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