Posted on 06/13/2011 12:16:49 PM PDT by Nachum
Serfs were free too. As long as they paid most of their income to their feudal lords, who then paid tribute to the feudal lords above them, who then paid tribute to the feudal lords above them, who then paid tribute to the feudal lords above them, etc, etc.
“Wouldn’t you rather have the government make all your decisions for you?”
It worked so well for the citizens of PolPot’s Cambodia, Mao’s China, and Stalin’s USSR.
“Why not make the USA like Cuba or Venezuela?...they don’t call it a Worker’s Paradise for nothing! So what if 100 million people are killed because they don’t agree with our way of thinking? In the words of one of our glorious leaders, “One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic.”
Does he really want to turn our eye to him? What happens when the hunter becomes the hunted? What happens when the public starts to really look at the media the way they went through Sarah’s E-mails?
Isn’t that what the slaveowners asked the slaves?
The fascists are finally coming out in the open now....good, lets get this over with so we can go back to being a free people.
I hope to God President Palin puts Ann Coulter in as Press Secretary
She will have these liberal pansies whimpering in a corner in less than a month
*Does Gregory want to give up his freedom or does he just think we not so elite should give up ours?*
I’m guessing he’s getting a waiver…proletariat not eligible for waivers.
bkmk
Now that is a precise journalistic measurement for political spinning aka propaganda. It qualifies and sloppy nonsense to obscure the really important considerations, like the speed with which government is taking away our freedoms, regardless of whether we will be "better off" by their disingenuous, nebulous standards or not.
The following listing provides a basic level of discourse which could help Americans to evaluate the grave matters before us in terms of whether certain ideas or actions lead to freedom or tyranny:
"1. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, individual freedom and creativity?
"2. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, the power of some citizens over other citizens?
"3. Does this legislation or idea recognize that the persons who will exercise the power are themselves imperfect human beings?
"4. Does this legislation or idea recognize that government is incapable of creating wealth?
"5. Does this legislation or idea authorize taking from some what belongs to them, and giving it to others to whom it does not belong?
If 'thou shalt not steal' is a valid commandment, can we assume that it is meant to apply only to individuals and not to government (which is made up of individuals), even if those persons in power pass laws which sanction such redistribution of the wealth of others?'
"6. Does this legislation or idea encourage, or discourage, the very highest level of morality and responsibility from the individual?
. . .when government makes actions 'legal' by some citizens at the expense of other citizens, the result may be behavior which would not be considered possible by individuals acting alone.
"7. Does this legislation or idea propose that the 'government' do something which the individual cannot do without committing a crime?"**
**7 principles excerpted from James R. Evans book, "America's Choice," and reprinted in a Stedman Corporation (Asheboro, NC) action booklet entitled "I'm Only One, What Can I Do?"
False premise.
We have not had ‘freedom’ in health insurance choice for a very long time. State goverments control who can sell insurance, what policies they can sell, what the rates are, that you can’t buy insurnace from another state, etc.
Obamacare just replaces 50 individual state run monopolies with one single gigantic Federal run monopoly.
But it’s still a monopoly either way. IOW NO CHANGE
Exactly.
See my post #30.
We are letting the liberal media dominate the message on ‘health care’ instead of telling it like it is. There is no free market in health insurance and hasn’t been for a long time.
“If you have doubted that we are in a civil war, perhaps you will believe now”
And too few conservatives have returned fire.
*“If you have doubted that we are in a civil war, perhaps you will believe now”
And too few conservatives have returned fire.*
I hope enough of us return the fire in the form of a maelstrom of votes in 2012.
Meh.
There is no civil war.
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
“NBC’s Gregory: Are Americans Really ‘Better Off’ with ‘Freedom’?”
Our enemies are painting themselves screaming red, jumping up from the foxholes and saying “Here I am!”
How delicious.
HERE IS THE BIG LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
HEALTH CARE AND HEALTH INSURANCE
BEFORE OBAMACARE!!!!!! BEFORE OBAMACARE!!!!!
WERE AMONG THE MOST OVER-REGULATED INDUSTRIES IN THE ECONOMY,
WERE AMONG THE INDUSTRIES WITH THE MOST GOVERNMENT PRICE FIXING,
WERE AMONG THE INDUSTRIES WITH THE MOST GOVERNMENT INSTITUTED COST SHIFTING,
WERE AMONG THE INDUSTRIES WITH THE MOST SUBSIDIES,
WERE AMONG THE INDUSTRIES WITH TAX INCENTIVES MOST FAVORABLE TO LARGE CORPORATIONS, UNIONS AND GOVERNMENT PLANS AND THE LEAST INCENTIVES TO INDIVIDUALS OR SMALL BUSINESSES,
WERE TWO OF THE LEAST “FREE” MARKETS IN THE ECONOMY,
WHICH IS WHY THEY WERE SO BAD.
“There was a sixty year long effort to undermine free-market economic forces in health care and health insurance, to weaken them as industries, make them sick by government excess, stage after stage, decry the increasing costs that government excess helped create, and then claim ultimate government excess as the solution.”© Wuli 2011
Mr. Gregory’s comment reflects the lie he believes - that what we have had for the last sixty years are “free markets” in health care and health insurance. We haven’t. They were not free at all.
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