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Mexican 'peace caravan' demands end to drugs war
BBC ^ | June 11, 2011

Posted on 06/11/2011 8:42:43 AM PDT by La Lydia

Hundreds of Mexicans taking part in a "peace caravan" to protest against the violent drugs war have arrived at their destination of Ciudad Juarez. The week-long journey was led by poet Javier Sicilia, whose son was killed by suspected drug-gang hit-men in March. Mr Sicilia wants Mexico's army pulled off the streets and more done to prosecute drug cartel members and seize their assets.

President Felipe Calderon has said withdrawing the army is not an option.

Nearly 35,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence since Mr Calderon deployed the army in the fight against the cartels in 2006. About 3,100 people were killed there in 2010, more than a fifth of the total in Mexico's bloodiest year yet in the government's campaign against the drug trafficking gangs.

Mr Sicilia and his convoy of about 20 coaches began their 2,500km (1,550 miles) journey in Cuernavaca, south of Mexico City, and criss-crossed the country....

"Do your jobs, stop humiliating the citizens of Juarez, and do justice to so many who have died," Mr Sicilia said after the convoy arrived in Ciudad Juarez. "This is the beginning of a civil resistance movement to transform consciousness, to start a dialogue in the absence of government policies."

Mr Sicilia and about 500 others signed a pact calling on the government to do more to stop the violence rocking Mexico by fighting corruption, improving the justice system and weakening the cartels by seizing their assets and blocking money-laundering. He said he would organise more such rallies if Mexico's politicians do not show more commitment to changing their strategy.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: border; gulfcartel; juarez; pacifism; zetas
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As Milenio noted, "Los Zetas van a estar felices..." The Zetas cartel would be very happy if Sicilia has his way. Does this poet REALLY believe that Juarez would be a safer place and all the murders would end if the Army withdraws and leaves Juarez to the tender mercies of the cartels, who are shooting out on every corner as it is?
1 posted on 06/11/2011 8:42:50 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

How about a ‘’peace train’’ to stop Mexicans from invading my country and fixing theirs?


2 posted on 06/11/2011 8:44:53 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Where’s John Lennon when you need him ( All we are saaaaaaaaying is give peace a chance)


3 posted on 06/11/2011 8:47:38 AM PDT by shadeaud (" If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: La Lydia

Peace caravan....more like a surrender caravan.

Colombia had a huge drug problem, fought against it (and against the leftist guerrillas who made their living off it), and now has a functioning economy.

Mexico is apparently ready to give up on the drug war, which is exactly what the Dems are urging, and become a narco-state. What could be better? (Also, an unexamined issue is the connection between these drug gangs and the left in Mexico as well as in other parts of Latin America.)


4 posted on 06/11/2011 8:48:46 AM PDT by livius
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To: La Lydia

He wants prosecutions, and he wants seizures. But no army. Okey dokey then.


5 posted on 06/11/2011 8:50:37 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Sorry, we're all out of free Lazamatazes! Come back next year!)
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To: La Lydia

Organized crime doesn’t concern itself with legal and illegal.


6 posted on 06/11/2011 8:50:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: jmacusa

I feel sorry, not for the illegal immigrants who break our laws, but for the people in Mexico and especially Juarez who are living through this hell day after day, week after week, year after year, while trying to continue with their lives. This poet guy I am sure means well, but he can’t think straight. If he’s lucky, the Zetas won’t try to take him down while he’s there.


7 posted on 06/11/2011 8:50:48 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: shadeaud

He is seriously attempting to imagine there is no hell ....


8 posted on 06/11/2011 8:52:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Larry Lucido

Exactly. Who does he think is going to do this?


9 posted on 06/11/2011 8:52:51 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Liz; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; SwinneySwitch

dangerous borders ping


10 posted on 06/11/2011 8:56:44 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: shadeaud

Yeah, right? LOL!


12 posted on 06/11/2011 9:06:30 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

They need to summarily execute these cartels! If Mexico can’t do it, the U.S. should intervene. a predator missile to their compounds solves the problem.


13 posted on 06/11/2011 9:22:28 AM PDT by JerryGoldstein433
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To: La Lydia
This sounds like something out of The Enabling Acts except those were in German. Mein Kampf might be the main reference.

........the Obama admin has threatened to withhold federal funding from states that stray from the rules of international treaties. "Obama's position and that of the far-left is that the US Constitution is an important document as long as its provisions coincide with those of the UN and other internationalist organizations such as the European Union," said Mike Baker, Esq, a political strategist...........

ANALYSIS Ohaha is colluding with foreign govts to undermine US national security. These govts consider the United States an invader state---a foreign power imposed on Third World hellholes. They arrogantly refuse to refer to the US by its legal name. The USis known by Mexicans as el Norte, (“the North”), el Otro Lado (“the Other Side”), or Gringolandia (the “Anglo Entity”).

So-called "drug wars" are a h-u-g-e scam. A ruse by the mexican govt to dupe the US into handing over our tax dollars to arm savage drug cartels. The Third World is financing its citizens to invade US borders---in order to build a Marxist Third World on US soil.

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REFERENCE----FR POSTED---It is WELL known that the Zetas ‘gulf Cartel, a former "special forces unit" of the Mexican Army, has been in operation for years and has recently been recruiting openly in Mexico. In the border city of Reynosa a banner reads, “Former soldiers sought to form armed group; good pay, $500,” “The Zetas operations group wants you, soldier or ex-soldier.” Authorities said the signs were probably an attempt to "demoralize the soldiers and police," rather than a serious recruiting effort.

(waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)

SOURCE http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-04-24-mexicocartels_N.htm

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WHAT IS THE MERIDA INITIATIVE? The US Congress passed legislation in late June 2008 to provide Mexico with $400 million and Central American countries with $65 million that year for the Mérida Initiative---to fight drug wars. The initiative was announced 22 Oct 2007 and signed into law June 30, 2008.

THE FACTS ARE THESE : Mexico is calculatedly staging the "war on drugs" and other border violence -- with a hidden agenda--to loot the United States treasury. Using deceit and guile, Mexico has infiltrated the US political system, from domestic to foreign policy, as well as L/E. The Mexican govt is sending millions of Reconquista shock troops from Third Worlds over the border (illegal aliens) coaching them about taking over the US system.

Mexico is the staging area for Central and South American Third World illegals to stream over the border into the US.

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Central America and Mexico are conning the US -----extorting US tax dollars to support Marxist/terrorist movement via the Merida Initiative----a despicable con to arm its police and military using US tax dollars to protect terrorists and drug cartels who are moving across the border into the US.

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Clearly, the Mexican govt is fomenting drug violence in order to: (1) get billions of dollars in US assistance, and, (2) to help their populations flee over the border claiming they are victims of violence and need "asylum." Asylum claims gets illegals thousands of dollars in SS funds.

Mexican Federales are getting rich using some familiar strategies:

(1) plotting to become a ward of the US;

(2) faking victimization;

(3) secretly revving up internal conflicts;

(4) play-acting the ignoramus;

(5) claiming they can't "control" their enemies without US money;

(6) organizing voting blocs----exchanging votes for US cash.

It's all a big scam---illegals are being financed and coached by Third World governments. The federales are salivating to get their dirty hands on trillions in US foreign aid---and they need a voting bloc to manipulate the US govt and loot the US Treasury.

ACTION NOW---Stop all funding for this con game. Tell your reps to stop funding the Merida Initiative scam now.

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REFERENCE America's Third War: Is the U.S. Arming Mexican Cartels?
FoxNews.com ^ | May 31, 2011 | William La Jeunesse
FR Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 by neverdem

If you ever watch video or look at pictures of the drug war in Mexico, you'll notice some pretty heavy weapons. This is a war being waged with rockets and plastic explosives, not pea shooters and Saturday Night Specials.

Consider these incidents:- A M26A2 fragmentation grenade used against a U.S. Consulate in Mexico in 2008 - Explosive projectiles and 21 grenades found during a raid in Guadalupe - An unexploded grenade and pull ring used to attack a TV station in Monterrey - Automatic weapons, including U.S.-made M16s, found at a cartel crime scene in May 2009- U.S. military-issued ammunition found in a cartel raid in Reynosa in November 2008. You can't buy this stuff at a U.S. gun store. So where do the cartels get it?

According to leaked diplomatic cables, there are three sources.

1. US Defense Department shipments to Latin America, known and tracked by the US State Department as "foreign military sales."

2. Weapons ordered by the Mexican government, tracked by the State Department as "direct commercial sales."

3. Aging, but plentiful arsenals of military weapon stores in Honduras, Guatemala and Nicaragua.

Even though these facts were well-known by the Obama administration, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Attorney General Eric Holder, it blamed much of the violence in Mexico on U.S. gun stores. "More than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our border," President Obama said in February 2009. That was contested, but few listened to gun store owners and former vets like Lynn Kartchner, owner of Allsafe Security, a gun shop in Douglas, Ariz...(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com

14 posted on 06/11/2011 9:23:22 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: jmacusa

You don’t know any Mexicans. And obviously you know nothing about Mexican history. You don’t know how lucky we are that we began as a colony of England, not Spain. All Mexicans are not thieves, liars and prostitutes, but those are the ones people in this country are exposed to because many of the ones who come here illegally are those things. All that said, when it comes to robbing us blind and leeching off our welfare and education systems and demanding more, I don’t blame for taking what is offered by our corrupt politicians and our courts. I blame our government. We’d all be better off if, after the Mexican War, we had just kept the whole country. Texas and New Mexico and Arizona and California turned out all right — until Mexico managed to take them back. And you’re right, under a different system, Mexico would be a prosperous country. But I still feel sorry for the normal people there who are just trying to live their lives.


15 posted on 06/11/2011 9:27:25 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: JerryGoldstein433

That would take a lot of missiles. You want to frost the cartels cajones? legalize the crap and tax it. Taxes are the quickest way to put anything out of business!


16 posted on 06/11/2011 9:27:58 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: La Lydia

Lydia, I know and have known more Mexicans than I care to, believe me and I’m a bit offended you would assume that I don’t. And as I said, my compassion and patience with them is long exhausted. They don’t do anything to change the situation in their country. Their only answer is to run away from the mess they’ve created. How long of a country are we going to be if this keeps up? When Mexico has destroyed the US, then what?


17 posted on 06/11/2011 9:32:53 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: La Lydia

And btw, my great-great grandfather was with Zachery Taylor in 1848 :-)


18 posted on 06/11/2011 9:35:49 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

So you want to make it legal so now anyone can get high and be drug addicts? Great now they can buy heroine and cocaine at stores. That’s brilliant s/


19 posted on 06/11/2011 9:57:05 AM PDT by JerryGoldstein433
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To: Racehorse; chicagolady; K-oneTexas; fuzzthatwuz; publana; deadmenvote; tuffydoodle; ...

Ping.

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


20 posted on 06/11/2011 10:08:27 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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