Posted on 06/03/2011 8:06:45 AM PDT by petitfour
...and a forensic exam of your computer shows you frequent "right wing" sites like Free Republic...
I'm just sayin?!
The felonies of the Rodham brothers didn't bring a SWAT team onto the Clintons?
I think it's mentioned because people want all available information. The deceased was one of the men arrested in 2009 along with others, which is what started the two year investigation.
At the link;
“Attorneys representing Jose Guerena’s widow, Vanessa, filed a motion Thursday asking that the Pima County Sheriff’s Department return some of the property seized in the court-ordered raid last month.
Those items include her wedding ring, Jose Guerena’s military medals, the couple’s vehicle, a laptop computer, and legal documents including passports, driver’s licenses and immigration papers, according to court documents.”
It’s remarkable that the one family member with a steady job and not receiving government benefits is the one who was shot at 72 times while officers couldn’t even see him. But the detective(s) on the case never observed him going to and from work or wearing a uniform nor did they have info that he was receiving welfare benefits. Therefore, he must be guilty. Never mind that they only attempted to observe his house once prior to listing it on a search warrant. And then the SWAT guy observed it once a few days prior to raiding it.
This explains something I read in the Vanessa Guerena questioning prior to her being read her rights. (I think it was before even though they were detaining her.) I just got this feeling that mother-in-law was about to lose it emotionally because her good son was killed and the bad son was still ticking. Mothers tend to not cut off their bad children at the expense of the good ones. It is too painful to admit that one is bad. So Bertha went to work every day. Jose went to work every day. Jose was teaching his wife English and helping her get a GED so she could get a job, too.
I’m convinced somebody wanted Jose Guerena dead. And what is the bit about the Guerena’s being linked to a home invasion?
I did. What do you suppose I missed?
Yep. They seized a whole bunch of stuff that wasn’t a part of the warrant. But military medals are so cool. And wedding rings? Well, every sheriff’s department needs to have a wedding ring of a woman who had been married 8 years. The lesson here is: Never, ever take off your wedding ring because your house could be raided by a SWAT team that has failed to observe your house adequately to know your habits including the fact that you have A JOB.
Nonsense. Like many around here, all I needed to see was "Marine shot by police" and my mind was made up. No point in confusing myself with facts as they emerge.
No he was not arrested in 2009, you should read the article.
To the Feds and locals, Jose was just so much Collateral Damage.. the march of the tin badge soldiers and the WoD continues.. to his kid and wife, I don’t know what he is.. other than dead.. a memory.. and for what?
So to combat people posing as police doing breaking and entering into a potential firefight - they do a little breaking and entering into a potential firefight.
When is the assumption questioned for the need to do this sort of thing?
Raid the house while the guy is at work - pick him up at work - and her at 3 am in her jammies- by knocking on the door unobtrusively with a couple officers.
But then that wouldn't justify a SWAT raid - would it? And they need to do them to show that Tuscon NEEDS a SWAT team.
The aricle talks about Police contacts. I did not read about his being arrested. It says he was in a car stopped that was carrying plastic, like the type used to wrap drugs. It says later that the mother’s house had much of the furniture wrapped in plastic. Coincidence? The article also says that he was at a house where marijuana was found but he was not arrested. I must have missed the part that says he was arrested?
"Celaya is the registered owner of nine cars valued at almost $60,000"
So the guy owned nine beaters worth almost $6,500 each! I know quite a few people with acreage that have at least that many junkers sitting on their property.
The younger brother who was killed worked in a local mine.
A miner- a source of real work and real income. Please explain sherf dipstick.
He was arrested in Pinal County and let go on $2500 in bail or maybe $1500. The money was returned to his wife, and he was never charged with anything due to a lack of evidence. The arrest records do not exist any more in the Pinal County system (other than that he was arrested) because there was no evidence of anything and it was such a trivial matter that they do not maintain such. Or that’s what I read yesterday on KGUN9, I think.
If records do not exist anymore, where did the information come from? Just curious.
I don’t know. I did not understand that from the story. There is a booking photo, but no details about the arrest are on record. It says the records were “purged.” So I guess there is a record, but there’s no record.
http://www.kgun9.com/story/14822958/guerena-court-records-released-regarding-2009-arrest
I actually have an 80's era flak jacket around here, I got it on ebay for about $50, I thought it would be a fun thing to have. Couldn't count on it to stop a bullet, but I'm sure could be described by hyperventilating reporters as "body armor."
“I loved this little bit of detective work:
‘Celaya is the registered owner of nine cars valued at almost $60,000’”
Better yet was the guy who owned ten cars valued at $24,000. I wonder how many of them still run?
If that's all they could come up with on him, he doesn't seem like a criminal-type.
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