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To: Elsie

Elsie, go read your Bible and study it so you can understand it. Do you even have a clue what grace is and what Jesus did in his agony at Gethsemane? Do you understand that God called upon him to take the cup with all your sins in it, past, present and future and drank it? Then on the cross he killed off the human body full of your human perversions and fulfilled the law so that he could offer you grace, which is the triumph over human death so that you can be with him into eternity? Have you EVER read the New Covenant? Do you understand that God is not going to apply judgment upon you because of what Jesus did if you do two things...keep his commandments and believe in his ability to give you grace? That is what the New Covenant is about you know. Do you understand it? Do you understand why ONLY Jesus had the right and the power to grant the murderer on the cross next to him forgiveness and a pathway into eternity with him? Remember God the Father said if a man deliberately sheds the blood of another you are to take him out and shed his blood? What changed, Elsie? The New Covenant did...that he brought and spoke to humanity through the body of Jesus Christ of Nazreth.

John 3:16
King James Version (KJV)
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Elsie that scripture is the core teaching in every Southern Baptist Church that I’ve ever attended.

Note: Every he, him, his in this post is put there with reverance of HIM.

You seem absolutely fascinated with the Mormons. Maybe you need to concentrate more on your personal relationship with the I AM. I can’t help but wonder how you missed all the New Testament teachings.


207 posted on 06/01/2011 12:22:55 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC

“Do you understand that God is not going to apply judgment upon you because of what Jesus did if you do two things...keep his commandments and believe in his ability to give you grace?” I think you have that reversed ... in fact I know you do, and that is precisely how the Mormonism apologists at FR have posed salvation, as something earned by keeping His commandments so then you can receive His grace. What is the commandment of God that men must do to be saved? ... The leaders in Jesus’ presence asked Him that , and He responded in what way? Do you know? The order you offer your instructions is a clue as to what your understanding of The Grace of God in Christ really is. You see, we Christians believe you believe, THEN God cleanses and send sHis Holy Spirit to be in you the Hope of Glory. And your old nature continues to war with your new nature so long as you live in the flesh you occupy. If you could keep His Commandments without His Spirit being the righteousness within, then Jesus would not have died on the Cross for your sina nd mine. He took you sin nature to that Cross. And try to get a clearer picture of what happened in the Garden. You’re tiptoeing mighty close to the heresies of Mormonism.


208 posted on 06/01/2011 12:32:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: RowdyFFC
YOU are the one who typed PLUS; not me.

I have no comments to defend.

224 posted on 06/01/2011 2:33:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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