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"Put it together, and when you have drug rip-offs that occasionally happen where people disguise themselves as law enforcement officers, it all adds up," he said.

So, the police spokesman tells us that home invasions by criminals dressed as police happen in the area, but he cannot see why someone would respond to people breaking down his door with gun in hand?

Then he says:

"They are faced with a weapon pointed at them. What other choice do they have?"

That is exactly the choice that Iraqi veteran Jose Guerena faced, but he did not fire. Why is his right, in his own home, inferior to that of the armed home invaders who just broke down his door?

1 posted on 05/27/2011 6:31:48 AM PDT by marktwain
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Is there any actual proof that Mr. Guerena, who in spite of having no criminal record, is some "evil criminal mastermind" as is being alleged by the cops, or is this just their way of covering things up?

Add this incident to the ever increasing list of reasons that SWAT teams and militarized local police departments need to be abolished.

2 posted on 05/27/2011 6:36:30 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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"I have to do what I think is right to protect the case to ensure that it has the opportunity to progress where we think it should go," he told me Friday, explaining his silence.

Translation: "No matter how badly we screwed this up, we still want to win it in court, even if we have to lie to win."

3 posted on 05/27/2011 6:45:44 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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There is absolutely no reason for the police to release any more information. They are heroes on the front line of the WOD. We should be thanking not criticizing them.

Anyone who disagrees obviously supports pedophilia, drug-adled zombie mobs, etc., etc.

4 posted on 05/27/2011 6:46:36 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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The police SWAT was poorly trained and likely on steroids. They easily could have arrested the guy on a traffic and served the search warrant while only his wife was home. Dumb dumb dumb police work.

Criminally wrong police work.


5 posted on 05/27/2011 6:46:54 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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I’ve posted this before, but if search warrants can be sealed, then the 4th Amendment is made null and void.


6 posted on 05/27/2011 6:47:20 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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Guerena's alleged gun threat left officers with "no choice" but to shoot.

"They are faced with a weapon pointed at them. What other choice do they have?"

Well, how about this?

The 1st Jack-Booted Thug to stick his nose/head into the door, was covered from head to toe in body armor AND had a shield.

Why not do (what one would hope these morons are trained to do) and simply duck back and order the suspect to put down their weapon, especially, in light of the fact that Guerena had NOT actually discharged his weapon.

What about all the "Simulator Training" these Goons supposedly go thru which I KNOW (from experience) teaches/trains the LEO's to NOT react in such a Cowboy-Like, manner, whereby they open fire instinctively without thought or taking a second to appraise the situation.

Something stinks here to high heaven and there was NO need for this raid whatsoever.

21 posted on 05/27/2011 7:28:59 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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"Put it together, and when you have drug rip-offs that occasionally happen where people disguise themselves as law enforcement officers, it all adds up," he said.

This begins to make sense. The cops thought Guerena was ripping off drug dealers. They weren't going to stand by while Guerena cut in on their action. They protected their turf.

24 posted on 05/27/2011 7:56:19 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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Here’s his wife’s statement right after the incident:

http://azstarnet.com/online/pdf/pdf_c8f5246a-8825-11e0-9f33-001cc4c002e0.html

http://azstarnet.com/online/pdf/pdf_0955c118-8826-11e0-a691-001cc4c002e0.html


25 posted on 05/27/2011 8:28:45 AM PDT by Fido969
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The reference to the unofficial Mexican saint “Jesus Malverde”, as “the narco saint”, is hideously stupid.

In Mexico, though their is little evidence that he even existed, it is believed that Jesus Malverde is the Mexican equivalent of Robin Hood. After a brief career, he was believed to have been captured and hung in 1909.

Thus, if some drug dealers in Manchester, England, decided they liked Robin Hood, the Nottingham P.D. would accuse Robin Hood of being a “narco saint.” It is about that silly.

If you want to see how popular he is, just Google “Jesus Malverde retail”.


26 posted on 05/27/2011 8:45:41 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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“I have to do what I think is right to protect the case to ensure that it has the opportunity to progress where we think it should go.” — Sheriff Dupnick

He should say that again with his mouth full of meatballs.


27 posted on 05/27/2011 8:48:14 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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