Posted on 05/25/2011 9:12:45 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa
Edited on 05/25/2011 6:54:09 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Me too Frank! :) He was the “gold standard”.
At least we still have him on film!
The dems and libs are dragging in the “how did an insane guy get a gun” stuff.
As if he couldn’t have just rented a U-Haul truck and drive it into a crowd.
You are right about the parents for sure. The “panty bomber’s” father showed far greater wisdom than did these two.
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If found incompetent to stand trial, he will be sent to a forensic psychiatric unit where he will be treated for his illness and hopefully restored to competency. Many such defendants are restored and eventually stand trial.
They then can plead "not guilty by reason of insanity,(NGRI)" and will then go through a whole new process of evaluation, the results of which which will be evidence presented to the court. NGRI pleas seldom work, unless they are obviously the right outcome. I doubt this guy will be found NGRI.
NGRI relates to mental status at the time of the crime, while competency relates to mental status at the time of the trial.
Many people think there is a loophole here that allows all sorts of criminals to run free and thwart justice. This is not so. Consider NGRI John Hinckley, who is still committed to the state hospital all these years after his attempt on Reagan. Most NGRI findings lead to commitment for at least as long as a guilty verdict and sentence would impose.
The difference is that an NGRI can hypothetically be treated and recover enough that a panel of doctors could deem him safe to return to the community. I don't know if this has ever happened in recent years, and certainly not with a high profile case. With GBI such a rare case would not lead to release but to prison to serve out his sentence.
Here in AZ, we can also find a defendant Guilty, But Insane.
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Some people just aren’t worth taking air away from the rest of us.
He killed an innocent child, tried to kill Gabby - she’s an admirable woman.
He should have been shot like a rabid dog, because that’s basically what he is. Where are all those concealed carry folks?
What is Loughner.....of illegal immigrant, Jewish, Muslim, Hispanic, European, WASP, Catholic, or Christian misc heritage, etc?
Americans deserve full transparency on those who report, and commit crimes and those who run for office. Instead of hiding their demographic background we should know it.
How convenient for him.
I saw a police photo of him and he was smirking in the pictures.
He knows what he did.
Do the crime, do the time.
I agree. Fry him.
Exactly.
You’re right. They’re going to cram him with psychotropic drugs, maybe some other treatments, to get him in shape for trial:
(snip)
Following outburst, suspect in Ariz. shooting rampage found incompetent to stand trial
By Jacques Billeaud, The Associated Press 16 minutes ago
TUCSON, Ariz. Federal marshals had to drag the man accused of wounding Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in a deadly rampage screaming out of a packed federal courtroom on Wednesday. Minutes later, Jared Lee Loughner watched over a closed-circuit TV as U.S. District Judge Larry Burns declared him incompetent to stand trial.
Mental health experts concluded that the 22-year-old college dropout suffers from schizophrenia.
Burns ordered Loughner to a federal facility in Missouri for up to four months, where doctors will try to give him enough treatment to bring him to a point where he understands the case against him.
[More....]
Neither expert thought Loughner was faking his mental health problems, with one of the therapists saying Loughner doesn’t want to be perceived as mentally ill. A hearing to revisit Loughner’s mental competency is set for Sept. 21.
...If he isn’t deemed competent at the end of his treatment, Loughner’s stay at the facility can be extended. There are no limits on the number of times such extensions can be granted.
If doctors conclude they can’t restore Loughner’s mental competency, the judge must make another decision. If he finds there’s no likelihood of Loughner being restored to competency, he can dismiss the charges.
Ya'll don't want to kill him all at once do you? Should whittle on him a bit first.
Of course he is “insane”...what sane individual would kill several random people...and smile.
He does not deserve to take any of society’s limited resources. He should be eliminated.
Well, I didn’t really mean for a long term process.
Start in the morning, but break for a nice lunch.
Finish up by dark.
And we don’t need to use ANY of society’s limited resources.
I volunteer.
Yeah. We can start with wiping that smirk off his face.
He was also a MAJOR pothead.
IMO, anyone with that background and enough sense to lie on the 4473 about that usage, is flat out guilty enough on any charges that come.
This is so ridiculous. He’s guilty, he lies to get his way and now he’ll be a happy camper in the hospital.
Actually, he’s not as nutty as the judge, who is as nutty as the Supreme Court (?)justices(?)who have told California that they must release approx. 46,000 out of their prisons because they are crowded and uncomfortable.
IMHO, the first person that gets murdered by one of those 46,000 was actually murdered by the Supreme Court 5 who allowed them to be released.
Do ya think that maybe someone would have the guts to sue the Supreme Court 5 - or demand that they be arrested for aiding and abetting?
Anybody ever get this boy’s political party registration??
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