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Who makes end-of-life decisions, family, or doctors? Ontario court to decide
LifeSiteNews ^ | 5/19/11 | Rebecca Millette

Posted on 05/23/2011 3:51:35 PM PDT by wagglebee

TORONTO, Ontario, May 19, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The question of whether end-of-life decisions, such as whether or not to withdraw life-support, should be made at the discretion of a doctor or family members is at stake in the Rasouli case, taken before Ontario’s Court of Appeal yesterday.  The court’s decision could dramatically change how these important decisions are made in the province in cases such as the much-publicized Baby Joseph case.

Doctors at the Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre, where 59-year-old patient Hassan Rasouli has been since surgery in October, say the Iranian immigrant is in a persistent vegetative state, with no hope of recovery.  They are appealing a Superior Court decision from April that ruled the doctors needed the family’s permission, or permission from Ontario’s Consent and Capacity board, in order to remove Rasouli from life-support.

The Rasouli family disagrees with the doctors’ diagnosis.  They say that their father, who suffered bacterial meningitis after surgery to remove a brain tumor, is able to communicate with them and shows progress in his recovery, although he presently requires the assistance of a ventilator and feeding tube.

“He talks to us with his eyes,” said Rasouli’s 27-year-old daughter, Mojgan. “We want my father alive.”

Rasouli’s son, 23-year-old Mehran, said, “When I speak to him, he opens his eyes. He knows me.”

Rasouli’s wife, Parichehr Salasel, was a doctor in Iran before the family immigrated to Canada last year. She has refused to give permission for her husband’s ventilator to be removed, saying she believes he is improving and that removing life-support would violate his religious beliefs as a Shia Muslim.

The doctors’ factum in court, however, states, “Doctors are obliged to offer treatment that can benefit the patient, and they are obliged not to offer treatment that is futile.”

Dr. Brian Cuthbertson and Dr. Gordon Rubenfeld of Sunnybrook say that, as the medical experts, they should be the ones deciding when patients will no longer benefit from treatment.

“The underlying issue is whether or not doctors have the right to withdraw treatment that they view to be of no benefit to the patient, or in other words, at end of life, futile,” said Mark Handelman, lawyer for the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, which has intervener status in the case.

“We’re still without an authoritative answer to a very pressing question,” Harry Underwood, the lawyer representing the doctors, told the court. “How are patients’ best interests to be protected?” Underwood argued that according to common law, doctors are not required to obtain consent before withdrawing medical treatment that they believe to be futile.

The Rasouli family’s lawyer, Gardner Hodder, told the court the diagnosis of permanent vegetative state, such as Rasouli was given, is often incorrect.  Withdrawing life-support, he added, is a medical treatment and, therefore, by definition of Ontario law would require consent.

Lawyer Hugh Sher, also representing the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, agreed with Hodder.  The Superior Court decision of April was correct, he said: doctors do not have the unilateral right to withdraw life-support treatment.  In cases such as Rasouli’s the decision should be taken before Ontario’s Consent and Capacity board, he said.

The Consent and Capacity Board is a group of lawyers, psychiatrists, and citizens in Ontario who are appointed by the province to resolve disputes such as in the Rasouli case between doctors and the family.  Ontario is the only province with such a system.  Rather than a lengthy court battle, which often ends with the death of the patient in question before a court ruling, the Consent and Capacity Board usually decides cases within a week.

“Society needs to be very careful with decisions to withdraw life support and granting doctors the unilateral right does not protect people who are misdiagnosed or not actually dying and it doesn’t respect the beliefs and values of people who live with a faith tradition that includes certain ethical traditions,” cautioned Alex Schadenberg of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition.

“The Rasouli case will determine whether doctors are required to obtain the consent of the patient, the patient’s guardian, or the Consent and Capacity board before withdrawing life support. This decision will apply to all life-sustaining interventions, including the withdrawal of hydration and nutrition.”

“The fact is that if the position of the doctors is upheld, doctors will not be required to obtain consent before they withdraw life-sustaining treatment that the doctor deems to be futile,” he said.

“Life is a gift from God,” Rasouli’s wife said following the court hearing. “He would want to live.”


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: futilecare; moralabsolutes; prolife; socializedmedicine
“The fact is that if the position of the doctors is upheld, doctors will not be required to obtain consent before they withdraw life-sustaining treatment that the doctor deems to be futile,” he said.

In other words, doctors will be one-man death panels.

1 posted on 05/23/2011 3:51:40 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 05/23/2011 3:52:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 05/23/2011 3:53:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Doctors at the Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre

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The name of this hellhole is a cruel irony.

4 posted on 05/23/2011 3:59:59 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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This is very scary. From personal experience can tell you that doctor's (even in our country) are quick to suggest that you send your loved one down to death.
5 posted on 05/23/2011 3:59:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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He got his BS in waste management. He’s more than qualified to exterminate Grandma. The family? they just get in the way. Pests, just asking all these stupid questions. I’m trying to ...


6 posted on 05/23/2011 4:00:30 PM PDT by allmost
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A court or doctors have no business deciding who lives or dies. The family does.


7 posted on 05/23/2011 4:05:21 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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"...permission from Ontario’s Consent and Capacity board, in order to remove Rasouli from life-support."

AKA "death panel".
8 posted on 05/23/2011 4:12:47 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: wagglebee

Whoever votes for life wins. If the family wants to let her croak, they lose. If the doctor wants to let her croak, he loses.


9 posted on 05/23/2011 4:16:09 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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“A court or doctors have no business deciding who lives or dies. The family does.”

Except when your husband loves you the way Terry Schiavo’s husband did—NOT AT ALL BUT HE LOVED THE 200K HE WOULD GET ONCE SHE WAS GONE.


10 posted on 05/23/2011 4:18:19 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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It’s the way of the culture of death. The left wants the power of life and death over all of us, and they will obviously not hesitate to kill us if they get the chance.


11 posted on 05/23/2011 4:56:13 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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Do yu remember it was a lawyer that helped him murder his wife?


12 posted on 05/23/2011 5:04:21 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To me it’s simple: if you or your family can pay for your care, live as long as God wills. If the PUBLIC is paying for your care, and you are vegetative, withdraw life support and.... live as long as God wills.


13 posted on 05/23/2011 5:14:19 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To me it’s simple: if you or your family can pay for your care, live as long as God wills. If the PUBLIC is paying for your care, and you are vegetative, withdraw life support and.... live as long as God wills.

First of all, this is Canada where people do pay for healthcare, it's called TAXES.

Secondly, those in a vegetative state almost never need "life support," they need food and water.

Thirdly, do you support the imposition of death panels if Obamacare is enacted? What about those on Medicare, they have paid for it.

Fourth, what EXACTLY do you mean by if the patient or family can pay for it? Does paying for insurance mean anything to you?

And finally, why do you only support death panels for those in certain conditions? Why not for everyone? We are ALL going to die eventually, why not withhold a basic antibiotic if a person cannot pay for it?

14 posted on 05/23/2011 5:24:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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What the aitch does “vegetative” mean?


15 posted on 05/23/2011 5:55:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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It's one of the new culture of death codes for "worthless eater."
16 posted on 05/23/2011 5:59:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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And of course people who want to take other peoples’ organs like it because it renders the helpless person into a non-person but with perfectly good organs that a more valuable human can use.


17 posted on 05/23/2011 6:31:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Excellent post. It seems that there are those who simply do not want to seriously consider these issues or their consequences. They just want to push it all aside with a quick remark and pretend that it isn’t happening. Unfortunately for us all, these decisions require more thought and compassion than that.


18 posted on 05/24/2011 5:41:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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19 posted on 05/29/2011 10:19:52 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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