Posted on 05/22/2011 11:11:23 AM PDT by DannyTN
Well done!
[Tips hat]
Have to get off now. Tornado warnings east of us...won’t hit us but I think I’d best unplug the computer before it gets a lightning enema!
There's nothing wrong with fructose. Excessive calories, regardless of the source, are stored as fat.
Good idea. Stay safe!
To verify that if both break down into glucose and fructose in solution, I should be able to get back the original components in any form I want. I can get back crystalline sucrose from sucrose that has been dissolved in water to break down into glucose and fructose. Now, if HFCS behaves the same way as sugar does in solution, it too breaks down to glucose and fructose in solution. How do I get back the crystalline sugar from this dissolved HFCS. IF you cannot do so with as much ease as you could when you take dissolved sugar, then doesn't it imply that sugar and HFCS really don't behave the same way inside our bodies?
Neglect percentage differences in composition - assume you're using 50:50 HFCS.
Is this Pepsi sweetened with cane sugar? I would think so because that's what soft drinks were sweetened with in "the day."
You and I said the same things, but you took the time to go deeper into the reasons this “doctor’s” work is crap.
“fast food french fries suck! I stopped eating them long ago and make my own now...delicious!”
They are even better when you cook them in coconut oil!
Now you see why I have no problem converting corn sugar into ethanol.
Nicely done.
Your subject is interesting. Apparently HFCS can’t be made crystalline.
Random thoughts:
It’s interesting HFCS can’t be bought in the store, like Karo Syrup.
Have you noticed, as have I, these young skinny girls with these spare tires around their middles? They’re skinny everywhere else, except for this blob of fat around their gut. In the past, before HFCS was so prevalent, it was something you’d NEVER see. If someone had some extra weight, it was spread out all over their body, or on their hips and thighs, not centralized in their gut. Makes one wonder.
And, finally, I personally have noticed a difference as far as soft drinks go. I was drinking 1-2 cokes a day. When I switched to Mexican Cokes which are made with sugar, my craving for a Coke declined dramatically. I now drink maybe one a week, without trying, without any discipline involved.
It DOES make one wonder.
That’s exactly what I’m trying to find out, and all I’ve been getting is obfuscation.
If sugar (sucrose for the nitpickers) and HFCS are really the same in solution, why can’t they supply me with a method to get back crystalline sugar from HFCS in solution? If crystalline sugar can be produced from HFCS, it could be easily spared the negative press that HFCS gets.
Yes, Throwback Pepsi uses cane sugar.
James, logic would tell you if they could make crystalline product from HFCS it would be on the shelves today. After all, it’s way cheaper then real sugar. But it’s not, in fact, it’s not available to the retail market at all. Which is interesting. I have a feeling the stuff is completely gross and smells otherwise they’d be selling to consumers, not hiding it in their products. Probably comes from China, too.
Here’s to real sugar, the new health food!
Good work. That took a lot of digging.
For anyone who is up for it, here’s a video of a lecture that goes into why fructose is especially problematic when it is not in a natural form, such as fruit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
I’ve never used coconut oil???? Enlarge my understanding on why it works and where to get please.
Why is it interesting? What would you do with HFCS in the home that you can't do with table sugar or corn syrup?
In the past, before HFCS was so prevalent, it was something you’d NEVER see. If someone had some extra weight, it was spread out all over their body, or on their hips and thighs, not centralized in their gut. Makes one wonder.
Makes me wonder how HFCS could be responsible for what you claim to see since they both offer the same number of calories per gram and sport the same glycemic index.
When I switched to Mexican Cokes which are made with sugar, my craving for a Coke declined dramatically. I now drink maybe one a week, without trying, without any discipline involved.
It DOES make one wonder.
Wonder no longer.
One question is whether HFCS-sweetened beverages have a different satiety profile from sucrose-sweetened ones. This study examined the relative impact of 16 oz. beverage preloads on motivational ratings and energy intakes at a test meal, using a within-subject design. Participants were 19 men and 18 women, aged 20-30 y. The iso-energetic (214 kcal) beverages were cola sweetened with either sucrose, HFCS 55 (55% fructose, 45% glucose); HFCS 42 (42% fructose; 58% glucose), or aspartame, and 1% milk. A no beverage control was also employed. Breakfast was consumed at 8:00 am and the beverages were consumed at 10:10 am. Subjective ratings of hunger, fullness, desire to eat, thirst, and nausea were collected at 20 min intervals until lunch was served 140 min later. Caloric beverages suppressed hunger ratings and increased satiety ratings relative to the no beverage control. However, there were no significant differences in satiety profiles among the sucrose- and HFCS-sweetened beverages, diet cola, and 1% milk.
Sugars and satiety: does the type of sweetener make a difference?
Kathleen J Melanson and others at Rhode Island University reviewed the effects of HFCS and sucrose on circulating levels of glucose, leptin, insulin and ghrelin in a study group of lean women. All four tested substances have been hypothesized to play a role in metabolism and obesity. The study found "no differences in the metabolic effects" of HFCS and sucrose in this short-term study, and called for further similar studies of obese individuals and males. ("Similar effects of high fructose corn syrup and sucrose consumption on circulating levels of glucose, leptin, insulin and ghrelin,"
How about that 2% milk? I might as well buy a can of pasteurized milk and add a tablespoon to a quart of water! That stuff is nasty!
That is not the main thrust of my point. The point is insulin does not know the difference between cane sugar intake or HFCS intake.
And even more important point is the HFCS drinks can be sold in bigger quantities because it is cheaper to manufacture them. Moderation is the key to good health. Stick to smaller quantities of sugar, and include a balanced exercise program in your routine, and you will have a better chance of fighting heart disease, diabetes and even cancer.
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