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To: Borax Queen

Absolutely. I live in a rural area, and the nearest town (20 min) of 50K has CCTV on every light. I’m sure paid for by “Federal” tax dollars. The media was not only complicit, but the useful idiot in this campaign. As Yuri Bezmenov warned, the complicit media helping the totalitarian rise to power will be “squashed like a bug” (as he put it), by the very thugs they adored and fawned over. Sickening.


203 posted on 05/15/2011 2:28:38 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235

We are not talking about bad cops - It is leadership and training issues that killed Jose Guerena.

I am disturbed and upset about a young hero Marine possibly killed by “friendly fire” under questionable circumstances by Pima County SWAT. A 26 year-old former Marine Jose Guerena is dead, was it righteous or criminal? Lets check the current info available from Pima County Sheriff’s spokesman, and media quotes:

Jose Guerena arrives home from working 12 hour a shift at mining job, showers and goes to sleep. The man has no criminal record other than a couple of traffic tickets.

Two hours later Pima SWAT arrives with sirens and lights on all vehicles at Guerena home to serve warrant. (Wife and locals say no lights or sirens observed) Lights and sirens on serving a warrant, LOL?

Wife & son see unidentified man pointing gun in window, runs toward bedroom to wake Jose fearing home invasion.

Jose wakes, instructs wife to hide with son in closet, with AR-15 moves toward front door.

Guerena home door breeched. SWAT claims after knocking for 15 seconds and announcing. Wife and locals say no knock, no ID announced.

SWAT claims fired upon by Guerena upon entry and returned fire, 71 rounds. SWAT recants initial statements. Jose’s weapon was found on safe with round in chamber. First man in stack has accidential discharge (AD) that hits door frame, and he falls back, whole stack opens fire on Guerena. You can clearly see from the videos of the house that most of the 71 shots hit walls and doorframe. County Corn says 60 hits on Guerena, I would like to see second opinion. As said previously would you want to be the pointman in the door, if you’ve got 4 or 5 quick triggers behind you that’ll spray and pray? SWAT lucky Guerena demonstrated more fire discipline than they were capable of demonstrating

SWAT made entry into two other homes to check for possible injuries and damage from rounds that penetrated after exiting from the Guerena home.

Wife talks with 911 operator for more than five minutes pleading for help while husband bleeds out and SWAT hangs around outside trying to figure out what happened and what to do next. SWAT pull wife off phone and out door, kid still in closet.

Wife claims Jose was still alive. SWAT said he was dead hitting floor. 1 hour and 15 minutes to “clear” house before SWAT allows an ambulance crew work scene.

Wife not served with warrant, warrant and files sealed after the fact.

Post entry/shooting investigation being conducted Pima County Sheriff’s Office. Why not let AZ State Police investigate with all conflicting statements.

This needs to stay at top of stack. Righteous or wrongly all the facts need to be out on the table .


204 posted on 05/15/2011 2:30:48 PM PDT by LowNslow (Retired CWO)
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To: JDW11235

That’s very disturbing!! I thought it was bad enough when those things came to the city, but now almost every small town in AZ has them. So I couldn’t run away even if I wanted to! At least Nappy’s spy cameras on the state highways were removed after she left, one small victory for the subjects of the state.

My parents and grandparents escaped from Stalin, and I lost many relatives in Siberia. Within one generation (and my youngest sister is only in her early 30s), we are here again. I feel sickest for my parents — I only have one grandmother left and she has dementia — but my parents see this happening all over again.

(Oh and I forgot another one of my favorites, Google spy cams watching us in our formerly private backyards, we have high walls all around the yard because of the pool. And their “street-view” peering in our front windows, those of us who aren’t in gated or secluded locations.)


206 posted on 05/15/2011 2:51:36 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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