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Hatch's website 'fiasco' — simply updating old site (RINO pushed bill for a foreign-born president)
Deseret News ^ | 2011-05-03 | Jamshid Ghazi Askar

Posted on 05/09/2011 2:56:23 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Several national publications recently speculated that Sen. Orrin Hatch was purposely deleting pages from his official website in an attempt to preserve his conservative bona fides. Hatch's office, however, squashed the rumors by thoroughly clarifying that the elimination of certain web pages was an "internal decision" related to the launch of "a brand new website."

Here's a timeline of what transpired: Darren Elliot wrote a piece for Salon on Thursday revisiting the Presidential Eligibility Amendment, a 2003 bill introduced by Hatch that would allow foreign-born American citizens to run for president — a stance which at the time was primarily aimed clearing the path for the political ascendancy of Arnold Schwarzenegger but that today would almost certainly be anathema to "birthers" and a majority of tea partiers.

The very next day Elliot followed up with another article, this time stating: "Less than 24 hours after the (Thursday) piece went up, a tech blogger discovered that the section of Hatch's website that mentioned the 'Presidential Eligibility Amendment' had mysteriously disappeared."

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: eligibility; hatchantigop; orrinhatch; rino; utah
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1 posted on 05/09/2011 2:56:28 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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thoroughly clarifying that the elimination of certain web pages was an “internal decision”

Hahahaha... More BS from yet another government grifter.


2 posted on 05/09/2011 3:23:10 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (e)
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Maybe you don’t know much about Sen. Hatch. He’s no RINO. No Senator has been stronger in opposing Obamacare, for example.

If Hatch once supported allowing a foreign-born President, explain to me why that’s wrong. The Constitution allows foreign-born federal judges & legislators, for example. I thought the Birthers were upset because they figured there was a violation of existing law. But a Constitutional Amendment changing the present law is another matter; if you don’t like it, you have to support your position with actual arguments, rather than just yelling RINO.


3 posted on 05/09/2011 3:24:20 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: rabscuttle385

Getting rid of enough liberal Democrats is going to be child’s play, compared to ridding the country of very established RINOs. I do not believe that we have discovered yet, how many of them there are in existence.


4 posted on 05/09/2011 3:30:28 AM PDT by David Isaac
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To: rabscuttle385

Orrin is still a squishy little man.

Recognized that reality when I was a child.


5 posted on 05/09/2011 3:52:01 AM PDT by mmercier (tied to the wheel)
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To: BCrago66

Best friend of Ted Kennedy.

Nuf said!


6 posted on 05/09/2011 4:07:32 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: rabscuttle385

The longer these people spend in Washington going to cocktail parties with the Ivy League elites and power brokers, the more their brains turn to mush.


7 posted on 05/09/2011 4:36:22 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: JohnG45
-- Best friend of Ted Kennedy.
Nuf said!
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But there is so much more. Justice Ginsburg was, in a sense, Hatch's idea.

Roberts and the Ginsburg Standard - Ed Whelan - August 31, 2005

HATCH SEES `EASY TIME' FOR GINSBURG IN SENATE - Deseret News - June 16, 1993

When Hatch was asked if he is concerned about Ginsburg's pro-choice views on abortion, he said, "I feel that issue was chosen in the last presidential election."

8 posted on 05/09/2011 4:44:47 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: BCrago66
-- But a Constitutional Amendment changing the present law is another matter; if you don't like it, you have to support your position with actual arguments ... --

The founders already made those arguments. One argument that held for limiting the pool of eligible presidents was to insure that the person who represents US national interests, as against the entire rest of the world, has had, from birth, allegiance to the US, and would therefore be uncompromising in defending US interests.

For one worlders, this is not so important, as US interests are not superior.

9 posted on 05/09/2011 4:50:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: mmercier

He is actually quite tall.


10 posted on 05/09/2011 5:12:55 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Cboldt

So foreign born judges & legislators, e.g., Alex Kozinski, the best libertarian federal appellate judge around, don’t represent American interests? And Keith Ellison, American-born Islamist-sympathizing congressman from MN, does represent America’s interests?

Maybe the founders got this one wrong.


11 posted on 05/09/2011 5:22:14 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: rabscuttle385

Hatch is owned by the masters of the NWO just like the rest of the RINOs.


12 posted on 05/09/2011 5:27:37 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: SC_Pete

I agree.


13 posted on 05/09/2011 5:34:53 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: SC_Pete

I agree.


14 posted on 05/09/2011 5:34:57 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: SC_Pete

I agree.


15 posted on 05/09/2011 5:35:04 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: BCrago66
-- Maybe the founders got this one wrong. --

I happen to think not, and advanced the argument. The counter-example is Obama, not a judge or a rep. Judges and reps can be naturalized citizens, although, I suppose one could argue that citizenship should not be a requirement either, on account of the many non-citizens of the US, who would act in the US best interests.

The role of the president under our constitution is special, as against the rest of the world. He is supposedly the sole authority when it comes to foreign affairs, negotiation of treaties (with the Senate having a check on that power), etc.

16 posted on 05/09/2011 5:50:47 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: BCrago66
Maybe the founders got this one wrong.

The Natural Born Citizen standard—born here, both parents citizens at the time—was intended to cut down the number of reasons an official would have for putting other nations' interests ahead of his country's interests. Today, like 200 years ago, this is a live concern. If a man has close kin who would be hurt if he puts America first, it will cause problems. Beyond that, there is the threat of tribal-based allegiances where other countries are given de facto control of American policy.

17 posted on 05/09/2011 6:39:05 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: rabscuttle385
Actions such as this are an indicator that Congress knows full well that Mr. Dunham never should have been nominated.

Congressional fear of addressing an issue, to the point of having piss run down your leg, is a terrible thing to witness.

18 posted on 05/09/2011 7:11:56 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: BCrago66
No they didn't get it wrong.

If you allow a person that is foreign born or born with dual citizenship to be eligible to be president, you open the door to the possibility that a person born in direct line to the British or other royal throne could also be the president.

19 posted on 05/09/2011 7:58:00 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: BCrago66
No they didn't get it wrong.

If you allow a person that is foreign born or born with dual citizenship to be eligible to be president, you open the door to the possibility that a person born in direct line to the British or other royal throne could also be the president.

20 posted on 05/09/2011 7:58:07 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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