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Good Lord. I'm as "states rights" as the next guy, but no one who isn't in college or currently high, is going to buy the First Amendment defense of heroine.
1 posted on 05/05/2011 10:01:42 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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His Glee Club in the balcony must have been giving each other high fives.


2 posted on 05/05/2011 10:03:50 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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Anybody could check my posting history, I’m no Ron Paul guy, but I thought he raised a good, legitimate point, which is the same point we raise about concealed carry. Liberals say there will be blood in the streets, that a simple fender-bender will turn into a Hogan’s Alley. Ron Paul said that simply because it’s legalized, doesn’t mean so many people are going to say “oh, it’s legal now, I’m gonna go get high on heroine.” Those that want to use and abuse it, are already doing so. Legalizing it won’t make the problem with that specific drug worse.

It’s similar to what happened in the UK and Australia when they banned firearms: crime got much, much worse because it ensured only criminals (those that DO NOT follow the law, for all the Liberals that may find this post) have guns. How much has been wasted on the drug war, when it could be put towards the space program, something which gives us realistic benefits?


3 posted on 05/05/2011 10:08:20 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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An exercise in Liberty brought to you by the Taliban?

I wonder if he would also be fine with, say, Hugo Chavez dumping cyanide onto our streets?

4 posted on 05/05/2011 10:09:04 PM PDT by mnehring
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He's done, Jim.


5 posted on 05/05/2011 10:10:16 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. -- John Steinbeck)
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I am glad Paul was at the debate. I love his act. Isn't he there for comic relief in between adults answering questions?

I am watching the replay now. I just saw a message from the Chair of the SC GOP. She is a smokin' hot chick. We have pasty fat guys running the GOP in PA. It's not fair.


6 posted on 05/05/2011 10:11:05 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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Remember that the constitution gives limited rights to the government, all other rights remain for the states or the people.

For the most part the areas the federal government can regulate are limited by Article 1, Section 8. I don't see anything there about protecting people from their own idiocy.

7 posted on 05/05/2011 10:11:10 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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Well, I am a Libertarian and we need to go a LONG way towards getting the Federal Gov’t out of our lives.

The States can make individual drug laws as is going on in California and Oregon where there a levels of legality on Pot.
Get the Fed out, and save our tax dollars.

All rights not given to the Federal Gov’t are reserved to the States and the People. The Constitution does not give the Federal Gov’t the right to regulate drug use.

We only make drug lords rich with Prohibition.


9 posted on 05/05/2011 10:11:59 PM PDT by AmericanDave (Party like it is 1773...!!!)
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HEY where’s the Spoiler alert!!!!


10 posted on 05/05/2011 10:12:05 PM PDT by moehoward
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Good Lord. I'm as "states rights" as the next guy, but no one who isn't in college or currently high, is going to buy the First Amendment defense of heroine.

Citizens don't have to point out some provision in the Constitution that allows them to do what they want, the Government has to point out some provision in the Constitution where it is given the specific authority to prevent you from doing what you want.

17 posted on 05/05/2011 10:20:36 PM PDT by Prokopton
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He just wants cheaper sh*t to inject into his veins.


19 posted on 05/05/2011 10:21:22 PM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (Why get 'er done, when you can get 'er did twyst as fast.)
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How many posters here would use heroin if the govt. made it legal?


21 posted on 05/05/2011 10:23:12 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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Perhaps a Freeper can read this and then reconsider. http://www.rand.org/multi/dprc/projects/legalization_debate.html


26 posted on 05/05/2011 10:29:21 PM PDT by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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Paul is definitely not a statist, and I respect his trust of the individual.


32 posted on 05/05/2011 10:39:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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highlighting the thick tension between conservatives and libertarians on the GOP.

Some guy once said that libertarianism is the heart of conservatism. I believe it was Reagan.

36 posted on 05/05/2011 10:51:25 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Blaming the prince of fools shouldn't blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that elected him)
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We’re on the verge of a dollar collapse, and we’re talking about poppies....


39 posted on 05/05/2011 10:56:37 PM PDT by kevao
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But “Ron Paul is the only candidate that truly understands The Constitution”. /s


47 posted on 05/05/2011 11:04:10 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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Apologize beforehand for the “All,” but felt this needed to be said:

Few things are innately evil. Nukes? Nope, even given their potential to kill millions. Without nukes and MAD, the Cold War would have gone HOT.

Disease? Scary, horrible, yes. Innately evil? No.

Guns? Freepers know the answer there.

But heroine? Yup. Pure evil. It just doesn't (almost always) destroy the user. It destroys everything around the user - unless you manage to disassociate yourself early. It is truly innately evil. A killer of people, and a killer of souls.

This might sound melodramatic to some. But those “some” have never seen the destruction heroine brings. Anyone who has will simply say, “yup, its evil.”

The mere fact the Ron Paul chose to make a stance here shows he's got no clue and is not qualified to be the GOP nominee, let alone President.

50 posted on 05/05/2011 11:15:56 PM PDT by piytar (The Four Horsemen: War, Pestilence, Famine, and Bob. Be not proud, Bob! (ht to Gen.Blather))
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If you believe in the constitution then you have to believe that the government has no right to stop someone from using drugs. I mean if you break the law like drive while drugged up do some other crime then you will go to jail. Right now we have a lot of junkies in jail on minor crimes and our jails are getting full! I’ve been at the juncture to legalize all drugs and tax them. This could kill the illegal drug trade. They could use the tax money to help people get off of drugs.


69 posted on 05/06/2011 12:09:57 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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Good grief. I’m all for much smaller government, but this whacko sounds like a freakin’ anarchist.


74 posted on 05/06/2011 12:21:20 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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Hey, no problem. While we are at it, why not make Oxycontin, Vicodin and all controlled substances over the counter?

Just because they can be out on the shelf doesn’t mean kids will use them, right?

Is it too early to thank Ron Paul and his worshippers for Obama’s second term?


95 posted on 05/06/2011 1:59:01 AM PDT by DakotaRed (Why not just pass a law requiring criminals to obey the laws?)
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