Posted on 05/03/2011 7:45:52 PM PDT by topher
COLUMBUS, Ohio, May 3, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Ohios Heartbeat Bill, which would ban abortion from the moment of a detectable fetal heartbeat, is gaining support from U.S. presidential hopefuls as it advances through the State legislature.
A press release issued yesterday by the Ohio-based pro-life organization Faith2Action announced that Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, Speaker Newt Gingrich, and Judge Roy Moore now join Governor Mike Huckabee as potential 2012 Presidential contenders who have come out in support of the measure.
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One such person is former Chief Justice for the Alabama Supreme Court: Judge Roy Moore.
A complete list of the bills supporters, which includes 500 pro-life leaders, political figures, and organizations, is available at the heartbeatbill.com.
If they say they support “life from conception,” but support a bill that says some of those persons can be killed, which should I believe, their words or their actions?
Our U.S. Constitution, and all of our State constitutions, imperatively demand the protection in law of the God-given, unalienable right to life of EVERY person. It is NOT optional.
This bill, and many like it that are being pushed across the nation, is deeply immoral and completely unconstitutional.
SCOTUS refused to define when life begins and I've always thought that was the loophole for the states to circumvent Roe v. Wade.
Should be interesting.
Even Blackmun (the author of the Roe v. Wade decision) said that if the fetus were considered a person, he would have had to rule otherwise in the famous decision.
I don't like this bill.
But I will suport anything that reduces abortions.
That said, give me and inch, and I will take a mile.
One good thing, abortion supporters have used a campaign of lies, and misinformation, and deceit to push their genocidal agenda, the more people learn that these are not lumps of cells or the same thing as a kidney or a gall bladder, but are actual human beings, the more they are forced to confront this crime against humanity....Thats how we will end this war on the unborn.
I had this debate with someone awhile back, it ended with him disagreeing, on the grounds that If I was right "that would mean these are actual children being killed" and he would not accept that because of the propaganda, something like this would force people like him and others to confront those lies.
The Constitution demands the equal protection of the unalienable right to life of ALL PERSONS. It makes absolutely NO exceptions, and it is NOT optional.
Every officer of government, including every one of these legislators, swore before God to do so.
What part of that is so hard to understand?
Its also clear, that as long as Roe vs Wade stands, there will be no protection for any unborn child.
At some point, you see what is, not what we wish it was, but how it actually is.
You can't always simply appear at the destination, you need to journey there, and getting there, isn't going to be easy.
Roe was decided on the sole basis that the fetus is not a person.
This bill admits that the fetus is a person, and yet allows certain classes of persons to be killed.
You leave nowhere to "stand" against Roe with lawless legislation like this.
The bill is worse than Roe, in two ways:
1) It is the codification of abortion in law, which Roe never was, being nothing more than one unconstitutional judicial decision in one particular case.
2) It allows the killing of innocent persons, which even the Roe justices admitted was explicitly NOT allowed by our Constitution. Even Roe's lawyers admitted as much under questioning on the subject by the justices.
Something I forgot to mention, abortion was legal in several states prior to roe vs wade.
If the first step is admitting that the fetus is a person, then thats a big first step (and make no mistake, even then, a abortionist judge will still overturn it, but at least they'll have to explain their decision on the science grounds, not the BS propaganda they have been using).
This bill will do more to reduce abortion, and the genocide of the unborn, then any other action in that state. Any attempt on an outright ban, will be struck down (again). Thats regardless of merit, even this law will get struck down, but at least, it moves the debate to stating outright that the fetus is human.
Thats something abortionist have been lying about for decades, and thats "the big lie" that has allowed this monstrosity to be legitimized.
At some point, steps need to be taken, more then just words. On abortion, I'm more of a means justify the ends, by any means necessary guy, and take any immediate results that can be gotten now, while trying to move forward and get more later.
A foot in the door, often leads to a body entering the house.
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