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To: FredZarguna; GOP Poet; Not now, Not ever!; DB; Waco; Thermalseeker; blam
Cell Phone Radiation Alters Human DNA Expression

Mobile phone radiation might alter protein expression in human skin

Mobile phone radiation health risk controversy: the reliability and sufficiency of science behind the safety standards

The last paper is fairly interesting, IMHO. It's not that long.

8 posted on 05/01/2011 10:39:57 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Well, we would have to do an economic analysis to see if the sacrifice human life is outweighed by the economic benefits of the technology.

Life in America is one big materialistic death panel now. Money is our only value; it has replaced individual freedom and the constitutional Republic as the “American dream.” It is interesting to note that we don’t have much money remaining when all is said and done.


9 posted on 05/01/2011 10:54:32 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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I have to disagree. Aside from the fact that the last paper is poorly written (or was not translated very well into English) it has a number of unsupportable conjectures and isn't much more than a lightweight survey. For example:

As stated already, to this time, we do not have available objective information whether human body recognizes mobile phone radiation (at levels permitted by the current safety standards) as an external stressor and responds to it at molecular level.

This is either incorrectly translated, or it is false. The currently available data and theories at the molecular level says there is no stressor effect. That could very well be wrong, but isn't the same thing as saying we "have no information." We do. Or this:

"However, there likely exists a subpopulation of people with different sensitivity to mobile phone radiation"

This is a pure conjecture which has no place in a scientific paper that fails to offer any evidence of the assertion. I don't understand how such a statement could get past a referee. [A weaker statement, allowing the possibility of such a population might be tolerable, but likelihood is a strong implication.]

In fine and in sum: the paper does a decent job of reviewing the controversy with the epidemiological data but does not really examine the flaws in any detail, and does not examine any of the proposed (and unproved) mechanisms. I suppose for a lay audience it's OK...

10 posted on 05/01/2011 11:49:42 AM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: neverdem

When I use cell phone or a cordless phone my face on the side I’m holding it turns red and feels burned, after a few minutes, gets worse the long I use it. I can’t use them, have to use a headset. I have no idea why.


13 posted on 05/01/2011 1:31:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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As a cellular engineer since 1986 with over 7000 cell sites commissioned personally in 49 states and 16 countries, if there were going to be anyone who developed any sort of “condition” from RF exposure it would be me. Not only have I worked nearly continuously around cellular transmission sites for over 25 years, where ERP levels are 60 times that of a typical mobile, I have also commissioned thousands of terrestrial microwave radios ranging from 2 Ghz to 32 Ghz. What you posted is a series of “might”, “could be”, and “maybe” wishful thinking by people who want to go after the cellular industry. These people have been trying to create this boogie man for over 20 years now to no avail. Read up on the well known RF phenomenon called “skin effect”. There are hundreds of engineering reports on the subject available through the IEEE and others. RF does not penetrate human tissue at low power levels, especially at .6 watts (maximum ERP for all mobiles set by FCC rules) transmitted in an omnidirectional radiation pattern at 800-2000 Mhz (cellular/PCS frequencies). Your body is mostly water. RF and water don’t mix well, especially at this power level. This has been a well known fact since the 1950’s. Remember, it takes 1000 watts of highly concentrated microwave energy to pop a bag of popcorn or thaw that roast for dinner. It’s obvious you do not understand the physics involved and prefer to join in the hysteria. I do understand the physics thoroughly and I know, with absolute certainty, what you post is bunk. I am living proof. If you want to cower in fear over RF exposure, be my guest, but please don’t bother posting to me with any more of this junk “science”. Thanks.


16 posted on 05/02/2011 5:04:48 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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