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[WH Press Sec.]Carney: Americans Should Be "Appalled" By Birth Certificate "Distraction" (Video)
RealClearPolitics ^ | 4/26/2011 | Jay Carney

Posted on 04/26/2011 1:50:08 PM PDT by mojito

"It's an unfortunate distraction from the issues that I think most Americans care about," White House press secretary Jay Carney said about the controversy surrounding President Obama's long-form birth certificate.

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Such a distraction that the WH has to answer questions about it on a daily basis.

Of course, they could just release the long form, but so far that doesn't seem to be an option.

I wonder why?

1 posted on 04/26/2011 1:50:15 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

I expect that the “daddy” Obama was “writing about” in his book is not the one he has talked about.


2 posted on 04/26/2011 1:53:00 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: mojito

Why would the WH Press Secretary be distressed because people want to uphold the Rule of LAW. JUST SHOW US THE LONG FORM>>>


3 posted on 04/26/2011 1:53:15 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: mojito
It's not just the BC. Almost all of the Zero's paper trail is MIA.
WTF is he hiding?
4 posted on 04/26/2011 1:53:22 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mojito
I am appalled....that he's LETTING this be a distraction by not showing it.
5 posted on 04/26/2011 1:54:26 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: mojito

CIA is still working on the final document — bringing in experts in CADD to finish the task. When it is ready, and totally flawless, it will be released.


6 posted on 04/26/2011 1:54:51 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: mojito

Hey Carney: There are A LOT OF THINGS that I am appalled about with your boss.


7 posted on 04/26/2011 1:55:25 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: oh8eleven
"WTF is he hiding?"



And that, my FRiend, is the $64,000 Question!
8 posted on 04/26/2011 1:56:41 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: mojito
Carney: Americans Should Be "Appalled" By Birth Certificate "Distraction" absence (Video)

That headline makes more sense

9 posted on 04/26/2011 1:57:18 PM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm listening.)
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To: machogirl

I’m appalled that you consider the Constitution a “distraction” Carney!


10 posted on 04/26/2011 1:57:22 PM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: mojito

REPEAL OBAMACARE NOW!

Do you suppose that is what he’s saying?


11 posted on 04/26/2011 1:57:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: mojito
"It's an unfortunate distraction from the issues that I think most Americans care about, No I think it is a planed distraction!
12 posted on 04/26/2011 1:57:27 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: mojito

The Lecturer in Chief chides the childish Americans via the Press Secretary.


13 posted on 04/26/2011 1:57:41 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: mojito
Why doesn't he tell Obama to show the LFBC then?
14 posted on 04/26/2011 1:58:18 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: mojito

Jay, Dude, is your boss a natural born citizen?


15 posted on 04/26/2011 1:58:18 PM PDT by nesnah
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To: mojito

No, im not apalled,,, in fact, i feel less alone. And now i want even MORE! Now i want the transcripts too! I think he PASSED as a foreign student to get special treatment. And that Ivy leagues never worried about his substandard performance.

Back then nobody knew a machine would put him in the Illionis seat, and that he would stumble into the Senate seat as a last minute sub with Ryans implosion. Now the Ivy league has a HUGE looming embarrassment on their hands,,,,, and they know it.


16 posted on 04/26/2011 1:58:22 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: mojito

I grow tired of the media and political “elites” telling me what is and is not important.


17 posted on 04/26/2011 1:58:22 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: mojito

I’m appalled by this opaque corrupt socialist administration that is clearly driven by ideology and a mentality of ‘payback’ for erroneously assumed grievances.


18 posted on 04/26/2011 1:58:31 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: mojito
Well we're appalled at you, your boss Soetoro and the entire 'RAT party. Not to mention the growing list of anti-birther RINOs who fail to exhibit any semblance at all of a spine.

Go ahead, PROVE US WRONG!!! I DARE YOU!!!

19 posted on 04/26/2011 1:58:57 PM PDT by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: oh8eleven

bttt


20 posted on 04/26/2011 1:59:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: mojito

Carney must have a two digit IQ if he doesn’t realize that 99.999999% of our good citizens wouldn’t spend over $1mil to hide a birth certificate worth less than twenty bucks unless they have something to hide.


21 posted on 04/26/2011 2:00:25 PM PDT by westcoastwillieg
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To: mojito
Americans Should Be "Appalled" By Birth Certificate "Distraction"

Americans ARE 'Appalled' by Birth Certificate 'Defiance".
22 posted on 04/26/2011 2:00:38 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ladyvet
I'm appalled that this WH doesn't think very much of the American people.

Because what the WH calls a “distraction,” I call a Constitutional crisis, and the greatest fraud in the history of this republic.

23 posted on 04/26/2011 2:00:38 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

I agree with him and look forward to Obama releasing his documents and getting us passed the distraction (I assume that’s what Carney would want). Hawaii just needs a letter from Obama, or he could probably just appear at the press conference for under a minute and give an audio/video release to the state. Even with his laser-like focus on jobs I’m sure Obama can find the time to do one of those.


24 posted on 04/26/2011 2:00:47 PM PDT by LostPassword
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To: mojito

I think he’s covering up a massive academic and financial fraud.
This is also the reason his campaign was so boisterous and loud about how wildly intelligent he supposedly was. They knew the truth and were setting up his biographical storyline in a preemptive attack.

Sort of like when barney frank and Chris Dodd lead the charge on “financial reform”,,, its a protective tactic often used to cover their personal vulnerability. Classic,,,


25 posted on 04/26/2011 2:02:28 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: mojito

It’s more than just a distraction, because if Hussein is a usurper, then he has forfeited his right to any power, and the people are absolved of any duty to obey.


26 posted on 04/26/2011 2:03:05 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: LostPassword
I agree with him and look forward to Obama releasing his documents and getting us passed the distraction (I assume that’s what Carney would want).

If you watch the video, there's a point where one of the press people asks Carney why not just release the long-form, and Carney gets very testy and spiteful, saying that the issue has been resolved.

A very interesting piece of theater.

27 posted on 04/26/2011 2:05:21 PM PDT by mojito
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Not a problem. Just have bwana obama show us his birth certificate, and it immediately becomes yesterday’s news, right? Unless..

And while we’re on the subject, many Americans are APPALLED it doesn’t concern any of you at the white house that Mr. obama has spent millions of $ keeping that information from us. There’s plenty of appall-worthy matters to go around, wouldn’t you say, Mr. Carney?


28 posted on 04/26/2011 2:05:30 PM PDT by lawley
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To: mojito

I don’t understand why the press doesn’t laugh at the “distraction” argument. What, people talking about a birth certificate somehow keeps Obama from doing his job? Moreso than playing Golf dozens of times a year?

How is it a “distraction”? Wasn’t having to write a proclamation for obscure muslim holidays more of a distraction than saying “no comment” to a question?


29 posted on 04/26/2011 2:05:42 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mojito

Who asked the question???If it was Lester, it doesn’t mean much that the question was asked.


30 posted on 04/26/2011 2:09:33 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: mojito

I am appalled, he should just show us all the real BC and put out his school transcripts and it would all be over, unless....


31 posted on 04/26/2011 2:11:08 PM PDT by tiki
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To: mojito; All

The following is a combination of three posts I just made on another thread, with the same topic. Ok lets shoot the logic down. Knock some holes in it folks!!!:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=43#43

I am going to address something that Carney and Anderson Cooper et al gloss over. Yes, the COLB can be used for most things like getting a drivers license (Yo, Carney, a DL is NOT acceptable ID for Proving one is a Natural Born Citizen... duh). HOWEVER, there are instances in which a Long form is NECESSARY.

One instance where it is necessary is in establishing Genealogy.

Another is when it is necessary to look at the Parents place of Birth!!! That is important!!!!! Why? Because Obama’s father is British, so under the section of Parents place of Birth (”If not in U.S.A. Name Country” Boxes 6c and 8c On the Hawaiian Certificate of Live birth the name of the Long form in 1969), Obama’s father is listed as having been born in Kenya - a British commonwealth.

What is the significance of that?

Well, golly, just that it PROVES that Obama was NOT born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States - Is not a Natural Born Citizen because he was born under the jurisdiction of TWO nations. In the debates on the 14th Amendment, the Honorable John Bingham deliberately stated, and was unchallenged on defining a Natural Born Citizenship as having been born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States!

Remember, it is the SHORT FORM which is Prima Facie evidence, it serves in a court of law. Yet, it does NOT contain the information absolutely NECESSARY in determining Natural Born Citizenship!!! The evidence of Barack being born under two Jurisdictions has NOT been presented as Prima Facie Evidence!!! It is legally UNPROVEN!!

Is THIS why Obama refuses to provide it? Because once he does.... the two jurisdictions issue is literally out of the bag... and public evidence! It also proves him to be an usurper.

Barack Obama’s continued pretense in the Oval Office is 100% dependent on keeping his original Long Form Birth Certificate unpublished and unreleased! That is pure insanity.

Now, that Prima Facie evidence, the Short Form COLB only includes certain details, and does NOT include Parents Birthplace. In the case of determining Natural Born Citizenship, THE PARENTS BIRTH PLACE MUST BE KNOWN. Once it is, Obama has nothing to hide behind.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=45#45

See post 43. It does not prove Obama a Natural Born Citizen because it does not list the birthplace of his parents.

Natural Born Citizenship is as dependent on the Parents Citizenship as it is the place of birth. Both MUST be citizens. Otherwise the child inherits the citizenship of the foreign parent, particularly when it’s Daddy’s citizenship!

Yea... the more I think about it, the more this makes sense. As long as the information which GENERATED the COLB is unpublished and formally unknown, it isn’t evidence. It could be just that simple. By relying on the COLB, it continues to successfully prevent the legal declaration that his father was British, because until it is released, it is legal hearsay?? Is that it? Could it be that simple?

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=50#50

True enough. The Short form doesn’t show the location of the PARENTS birth! That is as ESSENTIAL in determining Natural Born Citizenship as the location of the child’s birth!!!!!

A COLB doesn’t have that information does it? So the Prima Facie evidence Obama points at, doesn’t prove he is a Natural Born Citizen. It proves he has Hawaiian documents. Thats it. Only the document which GENERATED that COLB has the information needed to determine Natural Born Citizenship and that is PRECISELY what Obama does NOT want to talk about, because one MUST have two parents who are citizens at the time of birth, otherwise the child inherits that foreign Parent’s Nationality, particularly Daddy’s Nationality.

Obama REALLY does NOT want to be talking about that!

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=53#53

Read post 43. It might just be this simple. The Prima Facie evidence Obama points to does NOT have the information necessary to proving Natural Born Citizenship. This REQUIRES knowing the Parents place of birth.

Obama inherited his father’s British Nationality at birth. He states he was born under the British Nationality Act of 1948, but that is hearsay until proven by a factual document, such as a Certificate of Live Birth (long form) which the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB Short Form) does NOT have.

Maybe it really is just that simple. By presenting Prima Facie evidence, he can legally say he has Hawaiian Documents. However, sometimes you have to know what generated that COLB, and 100% of the time in determining Citizenship, it is required to establish genealogy. In fact, if Obama presented the Long Form to the British Consulate, he could claim his British Citizenship, and get a British Passport. GUARANTEED. He wouldn’t even need to apply for it, just present his Long Form.

Maybe that is literally all that the cretin is hiding, certainly from a legal standpoint it makes sense. Obama, the Constitutional “professor” would have been familiar with the debates on the 14th Amendment... in which the primary author John Bingham of Ohio states unequivocally and with out challenge, that a Natural Born Citizen is one born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States. So he hides the evidence of his dual jurisdictional Birth. The COLB does not give the information NECESSARY to determine his Natural Born Status, and maybe THAT is why it has been shoved down everyone’s throat, and why he refuses to release the thing.

It might just be that simple.


32 posted on 04/26/2011 2:11:40 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: mojito

They should follow up with
“saying the issue has been resolved did not answer my question as to why the long form hasn’t been released. Try again.”


33 posted on 04/26/2011 2:12:53 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: mojito

This is a distraction. The President has a full schedule of golf this weekend followed by a week of fundraising.


34 posted on 04/26/2011 2:13:35 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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To: mojito

Since when has this Whitehouse given a hoot about current issues?

They have entered with an Anti-American agenda and this distraction is messing with it. Of course they are ticked.


35 posted on 04/26/2011 2:16:11 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: RummyChick
Who asked the question???

It wasn't Lester. It was one of the "good" reporters. A print guy, somebody from WaPo or AP or NYT. I didn't recognize him, but he's there on the video.

36 posted on 04/26/2011 2:17:54 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Bttt.


37 posted on 04/26/2011 2:23:22 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: mojito

Any press worth its credentials would ask the same question, every day....is this the day the King will show us he has no clothes?

Keep it up, day by day, drip by drip until everyone starts asking, what is he hiding???

Of course, I know the LSM is exactly what it is, a bunch of shills.


38 posted on 04/26/2011 2:25:29 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: mojito
I'll tell you what Americans should be appalled about...they should be appalled that so many were snookered into electing an abject sicio-marxist into our White House who has no respect whatsoever for our Constitution or our traditional core values, and who looks on the constitution as an impediment and obstacle to enacting the fundamental change he is so anxious to bring to this country...and who is going about doing precisely that as quickly as he can.

His upbringing, his schooling, his mentors, and his record (including interviews he has held in the past) all confirm this and all need to be continually trumpeted as more and more people recognize the folly and danger he represents as a result of hois record as President...all of which was obvious to anyone who took the time to look and investigate back in 2007-2008.

The Audacity of Truth: Obama in his own words

The Audactiy of Truth: Obama's Upbringing

The Audactiy of Truth: Obama's Circle of Friends

The Audactiy of Truth: Obama and Black Liberation Theology


AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

39 posted on 04/26/2011 2:26:35 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Emperor Palpatine

“WTF is he hiding?”

That is exactly the point.

There’s evidence that he was born in Hawaii; there’s evidence he wasn’t - I don’t know myself.

But I do know he’s hiding something, and I’d further charge that the major culprit in this deception is the media, more so than even Obama’s paid minions.

And the reason is as follows: the only reason Obama is president is because Jack Ryan was driven out of the Senate race that Obama won. And the only reason Ryan left the race is because his sealed divorce records were released.

Those divorce records didn’t have anything to do with his place of birth, his residence, his age or anything that had anything at all to do with his eligibility to run for the US senate. They were clearly and simply personal.

Yet the Chicago Tribune bust its butt to reveal what’s in them. But the same Chicago Tribune, as well as every other lamestream outlet has no curiosity whatsoever as to what’s in Obama’s long-form birth certificate.

He doesn’t want to show it to anybody, and that’s good enough for them.

Tell that to Jack Ryan.


40 posted on 04/26/2011 2:26:38 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: mojito
Distraction=anything the libs find embarrassing to Barry and his crew of misfits. The real irony here is that liberals are famous for using sleight-of-hand to fool the public and yet now they are crying about distractions.


41 posted on 04/26/2011 2:27:44 PM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: Inyo-Mono

Your tag line is nothing short of hysterical!!! ROTFLMAO!!!

Oh, wait... I AM a wife...... hummmmmmm *taps foot while laughing with ‘that look’ in my eyes*


42 posted on 04/26/2011 2:29:03 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Sounds like Clinton when pressed about Monica Lewinski—”I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky, not one time. Now I must get back to the work of the American people” or something like that. Just as Monica was a distraction, so is the BC. It is now a settled issue like global warming.


43 posted on 04/26/2011 2:32:34 PM PDT by kabar
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To: mojito

Ed Henry, CNN, he prefaced the question by saying his network had proven that Obama was born in the USA.


44 posted on 04/26/2011 2:32:40 PM PDT by MisterI
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To: mojito
It's an unfortunate distraction from the issues that I think most Americans care about," White House press secretary Jay Carney said about the controversy surrounding President Obama's long-form birth certificate.

Sounds like "The One" is feeling a little bit testy. Maybe he better pick up the ciggybutt habit again. Calm his nerves. Keep up the pressure Donld.

45 posted on 04/26/2011 2:34:20 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: mojito

We should be appalled because the so called president won’t verify his identity. I can assure you Mr. .carney that I am no lunatic. I work with educated professionals - some voted for obama - and they are asking why he’s hiding his records.


46 posted on 04/26/2011 2:34:29 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: mojito

Tell that jerk Carney to get Obama to show the long form birth certificate and we will shut up and start impeachment and removal of Obama!!!!! I despise everything that the Democrats stand for now!


47 posted on 04/26/2011 2:34:39 PM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Exactly. If it is a distraction, just produce the document and stop the issue dead in its tracks. We all know that any such release, if the document exists, would raise more questions than it answers.

Obama's personal narrative is where he is most vulnerable. The GOP establishment are fools for not pursuing this and other issues related to Obama's personal story, associations, records, etc. McCain wanted no part of it. I fear that is the case for the vast majority of potential nominees now.

48 posted on 04/26/2011 2:38:04 PM PDT by kabar
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To: mojito

Plenty of good issues on which to defeat Barack Obama. But his birth certificate isn’t one of them.


49 posted on 04/26/2011 2:39:17 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: popdonnelly

Yes, I’m truly appalled that we aren’t learning more about Michael Jackson and the royal wedding.


50 posted on 04/26/2011 2:41:29 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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