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SpaceX not allowed to dock with ISS until safety proven - Roscosmos
RIA Novosti ^ | 22/Apr/2011

Posted on 04/22/2011 10:00:08 AM PDT by vertolet888

Russia will not permit the first U.S. commercial spacecraft to dock with the International Space Station (ISS) unless its safety is fully tested, a high-ranking Russian space official said on Friday.

The statement comes in the wake of media reports that the spacecraft's designer, U.S. company SpaceX, requested NASA to authorize the docking in December.

"We will not issue docking permission unless the necessary level of reliability and safety [of the spacecraft] is proven. So far we have no proof that those spacecraft duly comply with the accepted norms of spaceflight safety," said Alexei Krasnov, who heads the manned spaceflight department of Russia's space agency Roscosmos.

He said that to authorize docking, the Russian space agency will need to study data about the demonstration flight due to take place later this year.

"We have received no requests from NASA on the issue," the space official said.

"This plan is realistic, and ultimately commercial spacecraft will be able to dock with the space station," he said. "But all in good time."

SpaceX, a commercial company, signed a contract with NASA to develop both the Falcon-9 carrier rocket and the Dragon vehicle. Last December, SpaceX orbited the Dragon onboard its carrier rocket and demonstrated orbital maneuvering, before the vehicle reentered the atmosphere and was recovered in the Pacific.

According to the SpaceX 2011's launch schedule, two Dragon flights are to take place in 2011. During the first flight, the spacecraft will perform the flyby of the ISS, approaching to within 10 km from the station. During the second mission, it is hoped to dock with the ISS.

MOSCOW, April 22 (RIA Novosti)


TOPICS: Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; iss; nasa; roscosmos; roscosmosspacex; russia; space; spacex

1 posted on 04/22/2011 10:00:14 AM PDT by vertolet888
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To: vertolet888

Orders from the new owners.

When the shuttle stops the Russians take ownership.


2 posted on 04/22/2011 10:04:39 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: vertolet888

Does the ISS have any stand-off weaponry? If not, I say we board them and jettison any that dare resist.


3 posted on 04/22/2011 10:05:27 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: vertolet888

There goes SpaceX’s cost savings over national programs.


4 posted on 04/22/2011 10:06:57 AM PDT by jz638
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To: vertolet888
"...But all in good time."

That's bureaucratic-speak for "Not a chance in hell until we're forced to, several decades down the line."

5 posted on 04/22/2011 10:17:03 AM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: vertolet888

translation: WE WANT MONEY


6 posted on 04/22/2011 10:19:34 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Bingo!

I don’t think Roscosmos even exists without the delicate jugular of cash flow from their bretheren bureaucrats at NASA. The longer NASA has to “contract” flights to ISS on Russian hardware, the longer the checks keep arriving in the mail.


7 posted on 04/22/2011 10:48:02 AM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: Flag_This

>> Does the ISS have any stand-off weaponry? If not, I say we
>> board them and jettison any that dare resist.

I assume there is a /sarcasm tag somewhere in there, but in case not, then what?


8 posted on 04/22/2011 11:00:30 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: JadeEmperor
"I assume there is a /sarcasm tag somewhere in there, but in case not, then what?"

I used a silent "/s."

Sorry.

9 posted on 04/22/2011 11:02:44 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: vertolet888

Space X should tell them to stuff their old antiquated platform and proceed to build a real space station of their own. Screw the Russians, NASA and every other government elitist group that has barred the common folk from space since Chuck Yeager was forbidden to break free of the atmosphere because of the lack of a college degree.


10 posted on 04/22/2011 11:05:20 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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To: vertolet888

I remember the Russians made the same demands of the Shuttle before it was allowed to dock with Mir.


11 posted on 04/22/2011 11:07:19 AM PDT by Moonman62 (If gullible, uneducated and uncivilized people didn't exist, politicians would create them.)
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To: vertolet888
IOW... Alexei wants some payola, like he used to get from NASA, before he'll let some uppety Capitalists dock at the station we built for the Soviets Russians.
12 posted on 04/22/2011 11:07:29 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: Big_Harry

== Space X should ... proceed to build a real space station of their own. ==

This thing is kinda expensive.
The ISS costs about $156 bln and is considered as the most expensive artificial object ever built: http://most-expensive.net/most-expensive-objects-ever-built


13 posted on 04/22/2011 11:58:29 AM PDT by vertolet888
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To: JadeEmperor

Prepare to board!

14 posted on 04/22/2011 12:09:40 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: vertolet888

This thing is kinda expensive.
The ISS costs about $156 bln and is considered as the most expensive artificial object ever built: http://most-expensive.net/most-expensive-objects-ever-built


Yeah, true. And that’s at least in part because THE GOVERNMENT built it! I’m convinced private enterprise could do it in a far more efficient and less expensive manner...


15 posted on 04/22/2011 12:39:14 PM PDT by patriot preacher
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To: vertolet888

Expensive to be sure, but considering that it was built by government agencies, civilians could probably bring it in for about 40% of that number.


16 posted on 04/22/2011 4:31:20 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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To: vertolet888

Not sure but didn’t the ESA automated ship dock with the ISS on its first flight?


17 posted on 04/22/2011 6:50:44 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: vertolet888
How many hundreds of millions do the Russians receive for each Progress resupply mission? The sooner SpaceX can dock with the ISS, the sooner that gravy train ends for the Russkis.
18 posted on 04/23/2011 7:26:02 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Always Independent

ESA auto dock April 2008
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMORO5QGEF_index_0.html

Also Feb 2011
http://spaceplex.com/2011/02/24/european-supply-ship-atv-johannes-kepler-docks-with-iss/


19 posted on 04/26/2011 9:29:06 AM PDT by spaceistheplace
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To: vertolet888

Russians concerned about safety, haha, I’m sure all their concerns can be mitigated with money.


20 posted on 04/26/2011 9:35:30 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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