[Redleg Duke]

When I went through Basic in the summer of 1965, the Army had transitioned to "Trainfire". My Guard Unit in Wisconsin was still using the old ranges with their pits and hoist targets.

At least we were issued M-14s. Of course, the kids from the Big Apple and such still boloed alot because of the "kick", but it was a rifle I had confidence in.

We need to transition back to the 7.62 Nato and give our men and women a real weapon.

[Retired COB]

When I went through Basic in the summer of 1965, the Army had transitioned to "Trainfire". My Guard Unit in Wisconsin was still using the old ranges with their pits and hoist targets.

Me too - 1964 actually. I grew up poor in the Appalachian Mountains in Northern Pennsylvania and started hunting as soon as I was big enough to keep both ends of the rifle off of the ground. I was given two or three rounds of ammo and got my butt whipped if I came home without either a piece of game for each shot or all the ammo I left home with.

My father taught me to know what I was shooting at and hit what I was shooting at. My kids have got those little .223 rifles and they use the "Spray & Pray" method. I still bring home more deer than they do by quite a bit.