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The author makes the point that liberalism has made us think beauty is relative in just the way it makes many think truth is.
1 posted on 04/21/2011 8:41:20 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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But if you deny that there is such a thing as good and bad (non-) art, you can deny there are good and bad acts.


2 posted on 04/21/2011 8:46:13 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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And on a related point, liberalism teaches not to be judgemental about anything. Liberalism teaches that the artist was making an artistic statement, no matter how patently offensive it is to show a crucifix in urine.

So rather than being outraged that someone would put a crucifix in urine, we’re supposed to search for the “larger meaning” and all that, of the artistic statement made by putting a crucifix in urine.


3 posted on 04/21/2011 8:46:58 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Liberals have the goal of communism, pure and simple.

Communist goals for America,
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”


5 posted on 04/21/2011 8:57:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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It used to be that in the sciences, we easily dealt with the UFO-ers, perpetual motion machine perps, rogue planet believers, etc.

However, it appears that even here, the libtards have metastasized.

The global warming types - knowing that their only source of income is govt grants - have done a great job of bringing down some of my cherished science to the level of a democrat.

Their “science” is now on the level of their “art”.


6 posted on 04/21/2011 9:00:13 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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A jar of piss is not art. It is not an achievement of the human soul or a demonstration of man’s expressive capability. It takes no talent. I don’t understand how the man who pissed in a jar received tax dollars for the effort.


7 posted on 04/21/2011 9:02:58 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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My personal theory of aesthetics is that Art can serve a limited number of purposes:

1) It elevates you and makes you long for something sweeter than this world. Mozart achieves this, as do many other artists.
2) It celebrates the animal nature of this world and encourages you to wallow in this world. Michael Jackson, and so many others, have made this kind of Art.
3) It promotes chaos and meaningless such that neither this world nor the next world have any meaning or relevance. Serrano achieves this goal. Much of Modern Art achieves this. It's not elevating, and it's not engaging or amusing. It's just crap that people call "Art".

8 posted on 04/21/2011 9:11:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Liberalisms “respect” for “the other point of view” has morphed from its Liberal (in the 17th - 18th century sense) tradition, from respect for the fact that one has a right to a different point of view, to absolute respect and acceptance of that different point of view, as if you should believe it is as “legitimate” as yours, and socially as acceptable as yours.

They have gone from Voltaire’s “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

To: “I will defend to the death your right to your opinion, and I will no longer disapprove of it.”

But, such a respect, acceptance and false legitimacy is nothing other than self-denial of the respect, and the social legitimacy your own well founded view deserves, in your own humble opinion. Liberals no longer believe that should be a true value seeking contest, that we should withdraw from the contest altogether.

Liberalism is on a suicidal mission in western societies, at the same time that all other societies are pushing the world to promote and advance their cultural and moral values. This is being led within the “Liberal” communities by Marxists, who must, everywhere they rise, destroy the foundations of any society they seek to rise over.


9 posted on 04/21/2011 9:15:58 AM PDT by Wuli
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museumofbadart.org

14 posted on 04/21/2011 9:25:58 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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I find beauty in the destruction of this piece - whoever did it is truly an artist. How dare you critisize or prosecute an artist simply because you find his art offensive!


15 posted on 04/21/2011 9:41:02 AM PDT by frithguild (The Democrat Party Brand - Big Government protecting Entrenched Interests from Competition)
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If we can rightly use the word "beauty," a noun, it's because the quality it describes has an existence unto itself. It is then a real thing, not simply whatever we feel it is.

Nominalism vs. Realism rides again!

16 posted on 04/21/2011 9:47:38 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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The only reason anything should be funded out of the public treasury is that some demonstrable public good arises from it. In one breath, liberals tell us that the Mapplethorpe/Serano school of trash demonstrates a public benefit by forcing us to re-examine our views of so-called sacred institutions. But by their own admission, all that “re-examination” does is make people angry and hostile — hardly a benefit.

So in the next breath they claim that art is solely in the eye of the beholder, that there is no normative definition for “art.” Then they insist that anyone who fails to recognize the genius behind “Piss Christ” is a philistine rube. In other words, they proceed to define art.

Nowhere is the hypocrisy of the Left more apparent than on this issue.


22 posted on 04/21/2011 11:55:13 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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