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Greek default fears weighing on global stocks; euro drops below $1.43
570 News (AP) ^ | 4/18/2011 | AP

Posted on 04/18/2011 5:41:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

LONDON - Global stocks sank Monday as investors fretted over a possible Greek debt default, a day after China's central bank took another anti-inflation move in an attempt to get a grip on fast-rising consumer prices.

In addition, huge election gains for a nationalist euroskeptic party in Finland added to the tensions over Europe's debt crisis, on a day that Portugal began discussions on a financial bailout and Spain had to pay much higher interest rates to borrow in the markets.

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"The victory of the True Finns party in yesterday's general election in Finland will make further bailouts much more difficult to achieve," said Gabriel Stein, an analyst at Lombard Street Research. "Conversely, it makes sovereign defaults far more likely."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: euro; finland; greece
A lot will hinge on whether the "True Finns" party, which won big yesterday, will be part of the governing coalition. Each of the 17 Euro-zone countries has a veto over stabilization loans like what Portugal is demanding.

The potential for a Greek default puts additional pressure on those who declare that throwing more money down the rat hole is a good idea

1 posted on 04/18/2011 5:41:10 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625

I thought Greece was all fixed by the EU?


2 posted on 04/18/2011 5:59:22 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Nah, their PM said that Greece will pay it all back down to the last cent...unlike the other 5 times they went bankrupt.


3 posted on 04/18/2011 6:00:59 AM PDT by mewykwistmas ("The last time the French asked for 'more proof,' it came marching into Paris under a German flag.")
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To: mewykwistmas

Finnish “Tea Party” rattles Europe...


4 posted on 04/18/2011 6:09:14 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: mewykwistmas

No more bailouts. Let these countries slide into the abyss. Even with the bailouts, Greece has failed to put it’s fiscal house in order. They are like a chronic alcoholic. All the 28-day programs are not going to help. They need to hit rock bottom before they can hope to recover. Bailouts just make the problem worse and delay the inevitable. As does lifting the debt ceiling in the U.S..


5 posted on 04/18/2011 6:31:27 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: littleharbour

Let the Greeks go belly up! They all cheat on their taxes & claim false junk to get extra $ & the rest of Europe is paying for it...just like they will pay for Spain, Portugal & Ireland.

The best thing would be for Germany to pull out of the eurozone & tell the rest of ‘em to go pound sand. The Germans would be happy again w/ the Deutsch Mark & soon all of the eurozone would go belly up. Next, bankrupt free spending socialist states like Greece, Portugal, Spain & Ireland would have to face the music. As it is now, EVERYONE knows that regardless of what they do, the EU will bail ‘em out. One day, they might just find out that their free lunch will end... Best thing for ‘em, actually!


6 posted on 04/18/2011 6:38:39 AM PDT by Bulgaricus1 (Fill your hand you son...)
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To: PapaBear3625

I need the Euro to be about $1.24 and the GBP to be at $1.40 by June 14th. K? thx


7 posted on 04/18/2011 7:00:59 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (To conserve energy, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off permanently.)
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To: PapaBear3625

My 401k holds very little bonds so I feel pretty safe in assuming there’s no Greek, Irish or Portugese bonds in my portfolio. Junk bonds in the 80’s = government bonds of 2011....


8 posted on 04/18/2011 7:26:54 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: PapaBear3625

Just like politicians everywhere in the Western world, the Greeks are addicted to social spending for political gain. Some hard lessons are going to be re-learned.


9 posted on 04/18/2011 7:34:38 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

As Margaret Thatcher once said about socialism : “Eventually, you run out of other people’s money”.


10 posted on 04/18/2011 7:42:28 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625
There is currently some discussion as to whether Finland's "True Finns" party will become part of the new coalition government. Finland is one of 17 Eurozone countries which has a veto on whether bailouts can proceed, and the True Finns are opposed to the idea of Finland spending money to bail out other countries. If they veto the Portugal bailout, it would likely start a chain of events which will take down the Euro.

The True Finns posted big gains in yesterday's election, gaining 34 seats where EVERY other party lost seats. Business Insider says:

If the True Finns are excluded from the new Finnish national government, its numbers will likely grow. If their "message" is ignored by the new government, the True Finns will likely grow faster. Who knew that Finnish politics was so interesting?

11 posted on 04/18/2011 8:13:43 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625

Greece acts like a bunch of drunks. Can’t we put them on a 12-step program or something? “Hi. I’m Greece and I’m a stupid spender.” “Hi Greece.”


12 posted on 04/18/2011 8:52:10 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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“Hi. I’m Greece and I’m a stupid spender.” “Hi Greece.”
“Hi. I’m USA and I’m a stupid spender too.” “Hi USA.”

No doubt, we’ll be sitting in the same class like greece.
It looks like we’re in a synchronous downfall with the euro.

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13 posted on 04/18/2011 10:07:42 AM PDT by buzzer
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To: littleharbour

Well, yeah-—this is the same bunch of inbred greaseballs that can’t get around to fixing the roof on their own Parthenon. It seems like they are all out of room to “build new” and just let the old stuff waste away. We have a bit of the same problem here when politicians would rather get money for new stuff than maintain the existing plants/buildings. And while the Krautz are better off they have the same socialist welfare class problems that the rest of Euro does. Angela seems to have quit mailing 20 billion euro checks to the rest of the deadbeats.


14 posted on 04/18/2011 11:38:28 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: PapaBear3625

Why don’t the Greeks just raise their debt ceiling? Apparently that’s the only thing needed to keep from going into default.


15 posted on 04/18/2011 3:23:44 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: PapaBear3625

I work with a Greek who lives here. Nice guy named Makis.

He is going back to Greece to visit family in Athens so he can have about $75,000 worth of medical tests done.
Want an MRI? no problem 100% covered.
Think you would like a $25,000 cardiac cath done? just ask.
He went on for awhile about how wonderful it was before I asked. “Then why are you here?”

Blank stare.
Wonder why Greece will default?


16 posted on 04/18/2011 5:27:21 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Republican Wildcat

>Why don’t the Greeks just raise their debt ceiling? Apparently that’s the only thing needed to keep from going into default.

Because they do not have their own sovereign currency, thats why.
They gave that away to the Gods of the EU


17 posted on 04/18/2011 5:29:55 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952

Your reply was serious... :-)

I was being sarcastic with regard to the current debate here that seems to indicate we can just endlessly raise the debt ceiling to keep from going into default.


18 posted on 04/18/2011 5:51:04 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: blueunicorn6

the government is the drunk and they are the moochers and have put the producers on the program to fund the government drunkeness.

I would bet that many of the cronys have taken aid money and put it in personal accounts offshore/outside of the country.

Private business should not be mistaken for the ecconomic failure of governments.


19 posted on 04/20/2011 9:32:08 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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