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Budget deal details: Cuts that aren't quite cuts (Including $1.7 Billion unspent 2010 census funds)
CBS News ^ | 4/12/2011 | AP, CBS

Posted on 04/12/2011 10:58:10 AM PDT by Qbert

(CBS/AP)  Details of the $38 billion worth of spending cuts factoring in last Friday's 11th-hour budget that averted a government shutdown have been released, but the cuts, while historic, were significantly eased by pruning money left over from previous years, using accounting sleight of hand and going after programs President Barack Obama had targeted anyway.

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Many of the cuts appear to have been cuts in name only, because they came from programs that had unspent funds.

For example, $1.7 billion left over from the 2010 census; $3.5 billion in unused children's health insurance funds; $2.2 billion in subsidies for health insurance co-ops (that's something the president's new health care law is going to fund anyway); and $2.5 billion from highway programs that can't be spent because of restrictions set by other legislation.

About $10 billion of the cuts comes from targeting appropriations accounts previously used by lawmakers for so-called earmarks - pet projects like highways, water projects, community development grants and new equipment for police and fire departments. Republicans had already engineered a ban on earmarks when taking back the House this year.

Republicans also claimed $5 billion in savings by capping payments from a fund awarding compensation to crime victims. Under an arcane bookkeeping rule -- used for years by appropriators -- placing a cap on spending from the Justice Department crime victims fund allows lawmakers to claim the entire contents of the fund as "budget savings." The savings are awarded year after year.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: broke; budget; budgetdeal; census; cuts; debt; earmarks; obamanomics; porkulus; shutdown; spending; stupidparty
Think very hard before you vote for this, Conservatives. Many eyes will be watching you...
1 posted on 04/12/2011 10:58:17 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Don’t discount this entirely folks. Such ‘cuts’ may not be coming from ‘real’ programs, but if left in place they’d end up in Obama’s slush fund. It may not be as much as we want, but it’s more than nothing.


2 posted on 04/12/2011 11:07:39 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (JC Mark II: a month late and $2.3T short. Again!)
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To: Qbert

The more I hear of the details the more I think Boehner is a damned fool.
Republican? How about Dem lite?

Tea party has been played for fools.


3 posted on 04/12/2011 11:07:56 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Joe Boucher

Can we replace Boehner with Ryan?

FUBO indeed.


4 posted on 04/12/2011 11:11:55 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

“It may not be as much as we want, but it’s more than nothing.”

I disagree. The media is already starting to spin this as “Obama was brilliant in duping the Repubs” (so much for that short-lived “victory” lap for Boehner).

Sure, the media would’ve spun away if there was a shutdown, but at least we would’ve gotten something out if it, unlike this phony nonsense.


5 posted on 04/12/2011 11:17:41 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
Right you are.

CUT = Government can NOT spend it.

I am tired of these “WHINE, WHINE, WHINE, it's not perfect, kill it” types.

I will settle for a snail's pace as long as it is in the right direction. Thousand league boots would be better, but I am an adult and know you can't get everything you want.

6 posted on 04/12/2011 11:18:59 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: Qbert
If you are letting the legacy media set your opinion, you need help.

If they had cut $1 trillion, the media would have given credit to obama and blamed the R's for starving old folks and children.

7 posted on 04/12/2011 11:23:23 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: Joe Boucher
The approach to solving the budget mess is neither Democrat or Republican ... OR bipartisan. It is an American problem ... and it is apolitical at this point.

None of these guys can see past his own nose on what needs doing.

They are still jockeying for the best political advantage (the Democrats more so than the Republicans) when they need to be objective about actions and consequences.

I am so sick of their politicizing MY future.

8 posted on 04/12/2011 11:24:54 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Qbert

ping


9 posted on 04/12/2011 11:28:03 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: fireforeffect

“If you are letting the legacy media set your opinion, you need help.”

You missed my point entirely. The MSM is going to trash Republicans in whatever they do, so why not do the right thing for once?


10 posted on 04/12/2011 11:28:03 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: SMARTY

No idea where you are at in life but I’d hate to be entering the job market fresh out of college at this point.
Social security, dedicare, medicaide, gub mint med programe, etc etc etc and the bill keep growing and the baby boomers are just starting to retire.
And neither of these parties will confront the root problems.
Pass it along for the future.


11 posted on 04/12/2011 11:33:44 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Joe Boucher

BS.. Obama for one did not have a budget and the one he finally did to show he is dear leader increases. I believed he called it “investing in our future.”

Guess the goal posts moved...again.


12 posted on 04/12/2011 11:41:53 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The MSM is the greatest threat to America.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
but if left in place they’d end up in Obama’s slush fund.

Yep, this is only the opening round of budget battles. Best to take away some of their "ammunition".

13 posted on 04/12/2011 11:46:00 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: JohnBovenmyer

“Don’t discount this entirely folks. Such ‘cuts’ may not be coming from ‘real’ programs, but if left in place they’d end up in Obama’s slush fund.”

This is true. You have to take them off the table.

But it’s also true to realize that these are not real ‘cuts’.

here’s the REAL rubber meets road - the GOP HR1 had a bunch of spending items. What does this bill do that is different?


14 posted on 04/12/2011 11:47:23 AM PDT by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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To: Qbert
$38.5 billion in faux cuts. Obama looks like he is serious about cutting the size of government (while giving up nothing). Boehner looks like a hero (standing up to Obama). Everyone wine (except the American taxpayer).
15 posted on 04/12/2011 11:59:44 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Qbert
I am personally starting to like the 38.5B/77B less and less. The more I here the less I believe anyone in Washington wants to Reduce spending.

If the 2012 budget no matter what the final numbers are, Don't Publish specific on what got cut there is going to be RINO blood in the Water come 2012.

A 459 page budget is the first problem. Wonder how much money they have listed in their for DOD TP

16 posted on 04/12/2011 12:38:38 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: Bailee

it is becoming more and more clear this was a slap at the tea party winners and a slap at the voters SPECIFICALLY.

The leaderships of both parties are sucker punching the public and the MSM utterly failed to report this.

it is GOVERNMENT run media at its lowest.


17 posted on 04/12/2011 1:25:12 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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