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To: Realman30
I dunno. The cops holding the passenger because the driver “changed lanes without signaling”?

Over-active police state. They're just waiting for you to break any of the 20,000 or something laws so they can throw your constitutional rights out the window.

Chickenpoop.

20 posted on 04/08/2011 9:56:54 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969

I cannot remember any traffic stop anywhere anytime where they let passengers leave (flee) the scene before investigating and confirming IDs


30 posted on 04/08/2011 10:08:31 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Fido969
The cops holding the passenger because the driver “changed lanes without signaling”?

Or, the cop saw two suspicious looking black thugs in a two year old Lambo with dealer plates on it, and wanted to get a little closer look.

I've been pulled and let off with a warning a couple of times for speeding 60 in a 55. By myself. Both times on Saturday nights, right after closing time.

No doubt that the cop saw a young male, out late, in a pickup truck, and wanted to smell my breath. Was I getting profiled? Yup. But was I violating the law? Also, yup.

41 posted on 04/08/2011 10:36:51 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Fido969

You don’t know the law.

It is well established by Federal and Supreme Court decisions (ala Constitutional) for police to detain a passenger in order to identify them. You just don’t get to walk away from a traffic stop as a passenger because you can be called as a witness against the driver and therefore have to be ID’d in the report.


43 posted on 04/08/2011 10:49:01 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: Fido969
The cops holding the passenger because the driver “changed lanes without signaling”? Over-active police state.

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on the circumstances.

If the cops spotted the driver causing a near mishap because of his failure to signal, then I think they they should have pulled him over.

Failure to signal didn't used to be much of a problem, because the vast majority of drivers habitually signaled when they went to turn or change lanes.

Over about the last ten years or so, I've observed a phenomena that I call Refusal to Signal. More often than not, it's committed by some young person driving a late model Euro car, who is 'too cool' to let you know that they're about to cut in front of you when you least expect it.

Iverson's driver sounds exactly like one of these social degenerates to me.

48 posted on 04/08/2011 10:54:12 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Fido969
"The cops holding the passenger because the driver “changed lanes without signaling”?"

No, the passenger was held because the driver of the $400K car couldn't provide any documentation that he either owned or was otherwise in possession of the vehicle legally.

The story said that police had to run the VIN. Why? Because the vehicle had dealer vanity tags on it instead of license plates.

For the all the cops knew, they just pulled over two men who lifted that car from a lot.

54 posted on 04/08/2011 10:58:17 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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