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1 posted on 04/04/2011 3:01:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Ping.


2 posted on 04/04/2011 3:02:28 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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Odd, I have heard just the opposite.


3 posted on 04/04/2011 3:02:42 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Most electric cars will be powered by coal.


4 posted on 04/04/2011 3:02:59 PM PDT by AU72
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In smoggy cities like Los Angeles, driving one on summer days may actually clean the air...

So, the car has an air intake, air filter, and clean air exhaust to help clean the air? Oh, I see, the reporter is an idiot and thinks that somehow producing fewer emissions is the same as removing CO2 from the air.
7 posted on 04/04/2011 3:06:04 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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"But there could be a whole lot of gain in climate change."

Points for remembering to say "climate change" in lieu of "global warming", Professor Cahill. But we're still laughing. Another example of bovine flatulence from the hallowed halls of academe, where the buffaloed roam and never is heard a dissenting word.

8 posted on 04/04/2011 3:08:29 PM PDT by DeFault User
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I suppose that the proponents of the electric roller skates “feel” that the electricity that will charge the not-quite-so “eco-friendly” batteries will be delivered by the “Electric Bunny” (or Electric Fairy), right? No “carbon footprint” there if I’m not mistaken.

Idiots!


10 posted on 04/04/2011 3:12:37 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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Not burning gasoline here just means someone in China gets to burn it. These guys never do real world economics.


11 posted on 04/04/2011 3:15:33 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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Since AGW is a fraud, the carbon footprint argument is meaningless. Considering cradle to grave environmental impact, the electrics may have more impact due to the creation and ultimate disposal of batteries. Then of course most will be powered by coal anyway so we are back to the drawing board.


12 posted on 04/04/2011 3:16:25 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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Tom Cahill

"Kind of" an intersting name. Tom McCahill used to be an automotive writer back in the Goodle Days.

How far we have fallen! I miss those days!

13 posted on 04/04/2011 3:17:15 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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I don't think so. You have to plug it into an electrical socket and that power comes from either nuke, coal, or fossil fuel.

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14 posted on 04/04/2011 3:19:00 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("If You Don't Read The News You're Uninformed, If You Do Read The News You're Misinformed")
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“...even when emissions from generating the electricity are taken into account, electric vehicles have a much smaller carbon footprint than gas-powered vehicles because they are much more efficient.”

Carbon dioxide emissions (not that they really matter) and energy efficiency are two different (if related) things.

Internal combustion engines are (if I remember correctly) about 30% efficient, maybe a bit better if running close to their thermodynamic ideal. Using electric energy to power a drive train is, in fact, a lot more efficient, in terms of the fraction of the total energy that ends up moving the vehicle (somewhere in the neighborhood of 80%, if I remember correctly).

BUT the energy in the battery doesn’t magically appear there - it has to be generated somewhere. If it comes from a coal-fired plant (our most common generation source), you’re talking somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 to 70% energy wasted in generation losses and transmission losses, which wipes out the benefits described above.

Now if you’re getting your electrons from nukes, it’s a different story - no greenhouse gases, little generation loss, mostly just transmission losses.

But I don’t think people pushing electric cars are going to lobby for a whole bunch of new nuclear plants.


15 posted on 04/04/2011 3:19:51 PM PDT by Stosh
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It’s going to be terrible for the environment, think of all those Energizer Bunnies it will take to run them all!


16 posted on 04/04/2011 3:21:58 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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Take your “Carbon Footprint” and stick it where the sun doesn’t shine.


17 posted on 04/04/2011 3:25:41 PM PDT by anoldafvet (656 days until we're rid of "The Boy Blunder".)
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I like electric cars, they let you know who’s not right without having to talk to them. (paraphrase of an old Hank Hill saying regarding piercings.)


18 posted on 04/04/2011 3:46:34 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Chevy Volt burn only small amounts of gasoline,
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I guess this guy hasn’t been keeping up.

Andrew Farah, said in a briefing yesterday that not only was the 2011 Volt achieving its target of 40 miles of electric range, but it was also meeting the goal of 50 miles per gallon in so-called range-extending mode.

I can get that on a Prius without having to plug it in, and at half the cost to me and no cost of $7500 dollars to the Government.

Of course that is better than the 35 I get on my Camry, but I lose room and when I have to buy a battery it doesn’t cost $4,000 dollars.


21 posted on 04/04/2011 3:56:12 PM PDT by Venturer
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sure... if it can run on static electricity it pulls out of the air
24 posted on 04/04/2011 4:27:19 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Alot of the people who push for electric vehicles don’t understand where or how electricity is generated.


25 posted on 04/04/2011 4:50:27 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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>> “Will buying an electric car make an environmental difference?” <<

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No.

(until the batteries have to be disposed of)


28 posted on 04/04/2011 5:30:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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you might get a carpool sticker and a tax break

Up here in the People’s Republic of Oregon, there is a proposal in the legislature to impose a mileage tax on electric vehicles. The intent is to offset the revenue lost from gas taxes!

30 posted on 04/04/2011 5:46:44 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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you might get a carpool sticker and a tax break

Up here in the People’s Republic of Oregon, there is a proposal in the legislature to impose a mileage tax on electric vehicles. The intent is to offset the revenue lost from gas taxes!

31 posted on 04/04/2011 5:46:44 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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