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Boots on the Ground” in Libya?
Frongpagemagazine ^ | April 4, 2011 | Stephen Brown

Posted on 04/04/2011 5:28:09 AM PDT by SJackson

While Obama said in his speech on Libya last Monday that “America’s role would be limited” and he “would not put ground troops” into the North African country, the British were contemplating doing just the opposite. Reports in British newspapers on Sunday state Great Britain is preparing to send 600 Royal Marines to the Libyan conflict, marking an escalation in the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation’s (NATO) military intervention. According to reports, a Royal Navy fleet composed of six warships and marines will make up a mission to provide humanitarian aid to rebel-held towns.

In making this controversial move, the British government probably believes it has no choice, if NATO wants to accomplish its objectives of regime change, restarting the oil supply, and avoiding an open-ended and costly war.

NATO is currently operating in the Libyan conflict under a United Nations’ (UN) mandate that allowed the Western military alliance to establish a no-fly zone to save lives. But critics say NATO’s warplanes have already exceeded this humanitarian directive by continuing to fly missions directly supporting rebels on the ground after Gaddafi’s troops were driven back from rebel-held Benghazi and after threat of a massacre had subsided. One of those air strikes mistakenly killed 13 rebel fighters last Friday.

British politicians, naturally, are in full denial mode regarding a possible troop deployment to Libya. Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron said there is going to be a land invasion. The UN mandate, he recently told members of Parliament, did not allow for any foreign ground forces. His foreign secretary, William Hague, said the Royal Marines in question were preparing for a military exercise elsewhere and also emphasised there will be “no large-scale ground force placed in Libya.” As for the widely reported plan to arm the rebels, Hague said there presently is none, but that measure has not been ruled out.

While Cameron is insisting Britain will adhere to the terms of the mandate, he and other NATO leaders, almost from the start of the conflict, have said Gaddafi has to go. President Obama also numbers among those leaders who have stated Gaddafi must step down. In Obama’s judgement, the Libyan leader has lost all credibility with his people and must leave, although the UN mandate does not call for regime change.

“We will deny the regime arms, cut off its supply of cash, assist the opposition, and work with other nations to hasten the day when Gaddafi leaves power,” Obama told Americans a week ago.

Unsurprisingly, Gaddafi is refusing to co-operate with NATO plans for his future. The main reason for this is that the fight in Libya is a mainly a tribal one. The Eastern Libyan tribes opposing Gaddafi want to kill him and his family for the wrongs and deaths he has inflicted in the past on their family and tribal members. It is fear of this gruesome fate that is behind Gaddafi’s fierce resistance and refusal to step aside.

Leaving the country is also not an attractive option for Gaddafi, and the Western allies are partially at fault for this. They may have blocked his exit from Libya by having him and several of his sons indicted by the International Criminal Court. The indictment’s timing was strange, since the world has known for forty years the Libyan dictator was a sadistic murderer, who brutally treated his own people and foreigners. The fact that it was handed down only in conjunction with the current crisis indicates it was politically and cynically motivated, probably for use as a propaganda tool. But worse, it was counterproductive. With death awaiting him and his clan inside the country and the International Criminal Court outside if he should flee, it is no wonder Gaddafi is choosing to remain at his post and fight to the death like a cornered rat.

Besides Gaddafi’s determination to stay on, probably the most important military factor influencing the British decision to send in ground troops is the weakness of the rebel forces. So far, the rebels have proven inadequate in battle against Gaddafi’s better-armed and better-trained troops, and apparently will remain so for some time yet. The Wall Street Journal reports, however, that the rebels’ battlefield performance is improving, possibly with the help of Western Special Forces troops. But NATO intelligence agents on the ground in Libya assessing the opposition forces have probably told their governments there will be no quick victory and removal of Gaddafi due to the rebel troops’ poor fighting condition.

However, a quick defeat of Gaddafi is needed if NATO is going to realise its other goal of resuming oil shipments as soon as possible. Libya is the major source of crude for France, Great Britain and Italy, who also have large investments in the North African country. Saudi Arabia is currently pumping more oil to make up for the Libyan shortfall.

To make matters worse, the fighting in Libya is currently taking place around Brega, a major oil facility and critical revenue earner. It would be harmful to both Libyan and NATO interests if the conflict should settle there into a stalemate, paralysing the oil flow for an extended period of time. Of all the goals the British hope to achieve with troop intervention, restarting the oil supply is the most important in the short term and may see the British troops only seize the oil terminals.

NATO appears to have ruled out negotiations with Gaddafi, although Gaddafi’s son is proposing a peace plan that would see a transition to a constitutional government. But this insistence on the Libyan dictator’s removal may not produce an end to the violence. Like in Afghanistan at the end of the Soviet conflict, the victorious tribes may begin to fight each other, especially over the prized oil areas. Moreover, the danger exists that radical Islamists, strengthened by weapons they looted from army arsenals, will attempt to move into any post-Gaddafi power vacuum. The Muslim Brotherhood is already regarding Libya as new territory for expansion.

The British will likely get around not having a UN mandate to send in ground troops by labelling the mission a humanitarian one. This intervention by a former colonial power, however limited, will undoubtedly anger Arab and other Third World countries. But after 11 days of air attacks, the Gaddafi regime is proving to be a resilient one, prompting, NATO believes, the need for a quick end to the war. It is also a need that would already have been conveyed to Obama and with which he is in agreement. But with no disengagement strategy and Libya continuing to disintegrate, once Western troops are ashore, past experience has shown it is never easy to get them out.

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1 posted on 04/04/2011 5:28:10 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Why?

Sounds like the rebels have been routed and they are finished.


2 posted on 04/04/2011 5:29:43 AM PDT by Adder (Part 1 Accomplished)
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To: SJackson

If Obama sez no boots...bet your bottom dollar there will be boots.


3 posted on 04/04/2011 5:30:47 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: SJackson

I believe that we need boots on the ground in Washington, D.C.


4 posted on 04/04/2011 5:34:04 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: SJackson

So in the blood for oil War, the ragtags have got their ass kicked, and when daffy goes to gorilla war with 600 jack legged Brits, the out come will still be the same. So much for the popular uprising lie. It will not take to many body bags of Brits for this to change quickly. But then maybe the Brits are so hard up for money they are trying to restart their old business of slavery.


5 posted on 04/04/2011 5:39:05 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: screaminsunshine

I knew almost immediately that there would be boots on the ground. Reward and punishment is how Obama works. He knew we wouldn’t support his war but we will support the troops.


6 posted on 04/04/2011 5:39:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: org.whodat
When the Brits roll in there with the “softly, softly” approach they used in Basrah, and they end up picking winners and losers in the aid distribution and contractor employment bakshish, they're going to be undermined by Gaddafi’s men and the local Islamicist militants’ clerics.

I think I agree with you, the Brits are rolling in to take over the East Asian contracts for production in east Libya through force majeur.

7 posted on 04/04/2011 5:46:58 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Adder
It sure sounds like Gadaffi has won. Huge embarassment for Obama, NATO, Europe, etc.

Additional involvement by non-Libyan forces (meaning: us) would appear to be utterly pointless. I expect it.

8 posted on 04/04/2011 5:47:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: SJackson
If we want to save lives, we should invade Ciudad Juarez. More homicides in that city than the entire nation of Afghanistan last year. This is about headlines. ‘Look over here’.
9 posted on 04/04/2011 5:47:41 AM PDT by allmost
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To: ClearCase_guy

If at first you don’t succeed, try try again....this time in Yemen.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/04/world/middleeast/04yemen.html?_r=2&hp


10 posted on 04/04/2011 5:53:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SJackson

British boots on the ground will lead to more terrorist attacks against Britain and the fall of the Cameron government IMO.


11 posted on 04/04/2011 5:56:06 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: SJackson
Boots on the ground
Boots on the ground
Obambi lyin’ like a fool with you boots on the ground
Oil for Europe
Military hat turned sideways, boots hit the ground
Call yourself a cool cat lyin’ like a fool
Walking in the UN with yo boots on the ground
get it up!!
HEY! got your boots off the ground
lying like a fool, walkin’ talking
with you boots on the ground
get it up
HEY! got them boots off the ground
Obambi lyin’ like a fool with you boots on the ground
Oil for Europe
Military hat turned sideways, boots hit the ground
Call yourself a cool cat lyin’ like a fool
lyin’ like a fool with you boots on the ground
12 posted on 04/04/2011 6:03:43 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Impressive!

Needs a YouTube video starring Rapper Red Devil-232.

13 posted on 04/04/2011 6:25:39 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SJackson

The US has Marine Expeditionary Units off shore to assist the British and to go ashore. And, it is likely that other ground assets (US Army) would also be deployed.

Remember, this is NOT Obama’s war. He was pushed by Hillary and Powers.


14 posted on 04/04/2011 6:30:07 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Great ballad. Do it with SNEAKERS on the Ground.


15 posted on 04/04/2011 6:39:15 AM PDT by Broker (Mabuhay!)
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To: SJackson

How can you tell when Barack “Joe Izusu” Obama is lying?


16 posted on 04/04/2011 6:42:42 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: TexasCajun; Broker

I just changed the a few of the words in the lyrics of the song Pants On The Ground.


17 posted on 04/04/2011 6:46:44 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: screaminsunshine
“Obama sez no boots”

In response, the GIs on the ground have been ordered to wear Niki's instead, for deniability.

18 posted on 04/04/2011 6:47:03 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: cripplecreek
“I knew almost immediately that there would be boots on the ground. Reward and punishment is how Obama works. He knew we wouldn’t support his war but we will support the troops.”

Agree about “we will support the troops”. Having been a troop a long time ago, I'm all for that. But, I'm not in favor of our troops putting boots on the ground in Libya. Actually, it should be the French and Italians who put boots on the ground in this instance as each have large economic interests, including oil in Libya. Also, Libya having once been an Italian colony, there is a large Italian, Italian/Lybian population within the country. Sooo, what do you say we sit this one out, maybe provide some hi-tech surveillance, and other technical support. But, no grunts. Let's hand this off to the French and Italians. Make us some popcorn and enjoy the show...

19 posted on 04/04/2011 6:51:31 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: SJackson

The way his contorts words he will replace marines boots with flip Flops so he can say.... See no boots on the ground.


20 posted on 04/04/2011 6:53:32 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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