Posted on 03/28/2011 1:14:02 PM PDT by Niuhuru
I sometimes wonder why students don’t just pay retired professors forty or fifty thousand a year to teach them one on one. It would entirely provide exclusive teaching in the degree field and ensure quality and less complications with enrollment and also of course, a quicker degree.
And pure stupidity.
Most real work done by most actual employees gets checked by another employee. That's true whether you're an intern or not.
If the interns really weren't accomplishing anything, there would be nothing to check.
My experience was that it was #@%@#% hard to get a job right out of college WITHOUT an intership. I finally wound up taking a position in IT (because I liked computers, and that still counted for something back then) instead of Engineering.
Now, whenever "kids" come at me with this degree, or that certification, my response is always "that's nice, but lets talk about what you really know". And then the interview progresses from there.
For people who actually want to work and accomplish things (hint: not "Studies" majors), college is a starting point. That's all.
Exactly. And what’s more either the labor market is an efficient market or it isn’t. If it is efficient than the workers are getting paid what the market values their services at, or else they would go to some other, higher bidder.
“Baby Boomer ethics at work.”
Passed down to another generation.
“It’s all about me and what I can take from you.”
Treating companies as ATM machines and not places that are supposed to create a product.
“I’m not going to work hard - that’s what subordinates are for”
Funny how those with that attitude usually end up as subordinates.
“And everybody wonders why Obama is president and people like Charlie Sheen is making millions of dollars - it’s cause only chumps work hard and follow the rules anymore.”
Or move overseas, taking their skills and brains with them.
“For people who actually want to work and accomplish things (hint: not “Studies” majors), college is a starting point. That’s all.”
Students should be told that upon entering and leaving college or university.
You really think other employees check work?? Not in the companies I’ve worked at. The object is to get work DONE....not ready for someone to check.
“he workers are getting paid what the market values their services at, or else they would go to some other, higher bidder”
Fashion isn’t something that is in high demand, there are millions out there, all with their ‘brilliant idea.’
I've been in a lot of meetings over the last 20 years. I've heard the phrase "If we just had one more (Tech / Engineer / Doctor / Nurse / Electrician / etc) we could get this project done." I've never heard "Women's Studies Major" (or the like) mentioned in that context, though, ever. Says something about people who produce things, and people who only talk about producing things.
BTW, I went and skimmed the article. There's not a person quoted who actually produces anything. "Marketing" and "Communications" and "English" majors, all.
Buncha entitlement babies. I interned for a total of 9 months for 2 summers during my final university years, plus the first 3 months after I graduated. Obviously, internship means ‘NO PAY’. If anyone of these generation Whine’ thought they are getting paid are clearly democrat crazy and delusional.
The best part was “hanging out” (actually more than that...wink) with other cute and hot interns because you know the saying...misery loves company.
HER: “Oh like, ya know..how do you type short-hand?”
ME: “Oh, easy here, let me hold both your hands and demonstrate..you wanna go out for beers instead?”
Those were the days.
As in: "Did you get that thing done?" "Yep"
If they didn't, we'll be hearing about it soon enough. :-) But as for sitting down and doublechecking each little bit like a 10-year-old's homework? Nah. I'm a professional, and they're working on it.
So what's different between what you do for an intern and what you do for a new employee?
I didn't mean to suggest "doublechecking each little bit like a 10-year-old's homework". But with any new employee, you check their work, until you have a comfort level that they are competent with the level of work that you are giving them. You either have controls in place that automatically check or you audit their work. And if you find problems you expand the scope of your audit.
If the interns really weren't accomplishing anything, there would be nothing to check.
Let me guess. You're an intern.
So what you’re saying is the intern only provides extra help around the office and in exchange gets to learn a few things? As long as the “jobs” the intern is doing is always “extra”, there’s no problem, but if the intern is doing work that a regular employee should be doing, the company is getting by on the cheap.
FWIW, in a world where socialistic labor relations and employee rights laws provide for de facto life time employment security and prevent employers from laying off or firing workers, the only way to get your foot in the door is by taking an extended unpaid internship that allows your employer to evaluate your capabilities and job performance before offering you a permanent job.
Nothing's changed! He's still an intern! Though grossly overpaid.
Yep.
Not your fault.
Someone else’s problem.
As long as you’re getting yours, who cares?
So, to your closed mind, no degree other than one in the "hard sciences" is worthwhile. Interesting. Not unusual among some Freepers, but interesting all the same in that you think college is job training, and only job training.
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