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NFL passes rule limiting kickoff returns
Chicago Tribune ^ | March 22, 2011 | Dan Pompei

Posted on 03/23/2011 9:46:19 PM PDT by Impy

NEW ORLEANS — Opposing players haven't had much luck slowing return ace Devin Hester, but opposing team owners did so Tuesday when they passed a rule that will make it more difficult to return kickoffs.

The Bears steadfastly opposed the proposal to move kickoffs from the 30-yard line to the 35 and voted against it to no avail.

Kickers will find it much easier to reach the end zone and force the returner to settle for a touchback as opposed to risking a big return. It is anticipated the touchback rate could more than double to near 40 percent.

Coach Lovie Smith acknowledged the new rule would make it more difficult for the Bears.

"We'll still be able to get returns in," he said before the rule was passed Tuesday. "We'll find ways to deal with it."

The league implemented the rule because it found a higher incidence of collision injuries, specifically concussions, on kickoffs. But Smith said the Bears had incurred only one injury in two years, and that was an ankle sprain.

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1 posted on 03/23/2011 9:46:21 PM PDT by Impy
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To: Impy

They could just eliminate the kickoff and start on the 20, but then they’d lose a commercial break.


2 posted on 03/23/2011 9:48:01 PM PDT by Huck (Fools make feasts and wise men eat them - Poor Richard)
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To: Huck

All about the commercials.

RIsk of injury is high during returns, btw.


3 posted on 03/23/2011 9:49:28 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Dengar01; Perdogg; GOPsterinMA; PhilCollins; Allegra; darkangel82

This is lame.

Cloaked in overly stern and self-important preachy talk of “player safety” it’s imo a combination of

A)The owners trying to show the players how much there care about safety (with a meaningless gesture that will have little injury impact).

and maybe I’m paranoid but

B)A conspiracy by the majority of teams which lack an elite return game to blunt the advantage of the minority of teams that do


4 posted on 03/23/2011 9:52:32 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
Another reason I still prefer hockey.


5 posted on 03/23/2011 9:53:23 PM PDT by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: Huck

They actually debated that.

Insane imo, to force such a radical change on the game. The field position battle is an interesting part of the game to many.

If they want to make football “safe” there is only one way, start playing touch football like grade schoolers.


6 posted on 03/23/2011 9:54:43 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Years ago, they kicked off from the 40 yard line. There were so many touchbacks that they moved the kickoff back to the 35, then the 30, to encourage kickoff returns.

Now they are going in the opposite direction, to encourage more touchbacks.

Interesting..............


7 posted on 03/23/2011 9:58:07 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Impy

wimpy er wimpy er. They should just change to flag football, let the cheerleaders play and be done with it.


8 posted on 03/23/2011 9:58:53 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Impy

I thought football involved defensive tackling? Am I missing something or has the game changed?


9 posted on 03/23/2011 10:04:34 PM PDT by biff
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To: Impy

Why not just move it to the 50 and be done with it.
“If they are worried about injuries, they could wear skirts.” (thanks for the quote to Jack Lambert)


10 posted on 03/23/2011 10:06:31 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Impy

What a strange decision. Kickoffs used to be from the 40-yd line, but soccer-style kickers began creating too many touchbacks. So the NFL moved it to the 35, and later to the 30-yd line, to get kick returns back into the game.

Now they want to take kick returns out of the game. What a crock.


11 posted on 03/23/2011 10:07:35 PM PDT by 04-Bravo
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To: Impy

More touchbacks = stupid. That 5 yards may not sound like much on kickoffs, but I believe this will have consequences.

This will hurt overall scoring. Gives the offense a longer field which will mean more field goals and less touchdowns.

Hell, if the wind is right with a great kicker, we might see a couple of instances of putting a kickoff through the goal posts. (would that count as a field goal?) lol


12 posted on 03/23/2011 10:13:10 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: wastedyears

Me, too. And no thugs in the headlines.


13 posted on 03/23/2011 10:20:58 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Huck

I second the motion: No kickoffs. Start on the 20. The brutal injuries from kickoffs deserve a change in plans, especially in youth leagues.


14 posted on 03/23/2011 10:24:47 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: wastedyears
"Another reason I still prefer hockey."

I wanted to give up on football when Jones took over our team, but he did win three SBs, but now the Cowboys suck. And I loved it when the Stars won the Cup, but now they suck too.

I think I'm a UFC fan now, even though they quit having no time limits. There used to be two rules: no biting and no gouging of eyes. Long live Royce Gracie, 6'1" and 170 pounds, a bad SOB in his day. Now there are rules about no beating down yer opponent if a knee is on the mat. They make the fighters stand up after being in a clinch for a couple of minutes or so. You can tap out if you are choking. I just hope the UFC never goes so sissified, but you never know.

15 posted on 03/23/2011 10:25:23 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: 04-Bravo

“Thats why girls don’t play the game” The Replacements.


16 posted on 03/23/2011 10:29:07 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: TomasUSMC

‘They should just change to flag football, let the cheerleaders play and be done with it.’

This is the new America, in which all the Moms will only let their kids play soccer, so, yes, this may be coming...


17 posted on 03/23/2011 10:30:07 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: All

Dude, seriously, ask yossef this question...

Why are you “cheering”?


18 posted on 03/23/2011 10:38:40 PM PDT by Professional
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To: wastedyears

One of many. Sublime game.


19 posted on 03/23/2011 10:42:02 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: wastedyears

Hockey huh?

Hey, let me ask you then...

How many players on YOUR team, have been there 4 yrs or longer? How many players are born, or went to high school within 300 miles of YOUR stadium? How many of YOUR players, do not take PEDs?...are you sure? Are you sure the Refs, are on the up and up? Don’t you feel manipulated by watching all those TV commercials while you watch YOUR team?

Sorry, didn’t mean to pick on you. I just had an awakening a few years back. Genuinely interested in your response.


20 posted on 03/23/2011 10:43:43 PM PDT by Professional
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To: Impy

Nearly double the touchback rate? Well, hell. Why not just let the kick returner play rock, paper, scissors beforehand to determine if it’s a fair catch?

Stupid new rule. Bunch of socialists. We have to make kick returns fair and accessible to all.


21 posted on 03/23/2011 11:07:33 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Impy

The NFL should implement the “Rouge”, 1-point for touchbacks.


22 posted on 03/23/2011 11:14:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Impy
Rush commented on this on Tuesday. As per usual, I think he was right on. The under lying reason is to be able to add more commercials. More touchbacks, instant replays after each touchdown. It will increase revenue and downtime, in my opinion more boring.
As a Broncos fan, I say it also helps to take away a big advantage we have at home, thin air and little time to catch your breath. If these rules were in place last year, I wonder if they would have won any games this season, heh.


23 posted on 03/23/2011 11:15:30 PM PDT by McCloud-Strife ( USA 1776-2008)
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To: Impy
Reducing big plays and lowering points scored................seems contradictory to maintaining high TV ratings.
24 posted on 03/23/2011 11:20:55 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: Impy

I can understand the Bear’s coach not approving of this rule. The Bears have the most dangerous kickoff return man in the NFL with Devin Hester.


25 posted on 03/23/2011 11:24:18 PM PDT by wrcase
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To: wrcase

This will not stop #23. In the first place, most of his TD returns come on punts. In the second place, he has been known to take it back from deep in the end zone - and go either all the way or at least well past the 20.

Returns are much more exciting than touchbacks - especially for Bears fans these last 5 seasons...


26 posted on 03/23/2011 11:27:58 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Falconspeed

Be sure to teach them to wear lipstick, too


27 posted on 03/23/2011 11:28:51 PM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: Impy
the chickification of football? .......'after you my dear ALFONSE...no, after YOU my dear GASTON..' GOOD god...
28 posted on 03/23/2011 11:30:59 PM PDT by flat
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To: karnage

I agree, when the opposing team punts or kicks off the sports bar patrons are locked onto the TVs. It’s usually the most exciting part of the Bear’s offense.


29 posted on 03/23/2011 11:31:38 PM PDT by wrcase
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To: TomasUSMC
Can you imagine a lifetime spent allowing risk minimization to rule all your decisions? No scars, no pain, no way to develop that inner reserve that growls when you're in agony and yet on fire to get in there and succeed anyway, that burning in your bones be damned? Kids raised this hyper-effiminate way today will have no sense of overcoming obstacles or dealing with physical pain, because they will never have endured any. At the first sign of trouble, they'll only know how to leave and play something else. Imagine the leaders in our grand-childrens' years. Lord help us all.

I still relish, and can almost feel, the most vicious hit I ever took. (Was in a ruby game, actually, LOL. I wish I knew where that guy is today so I can buy him a round every once in a while.)

I loathe those who would deny such memories to others because they are too afraid themselves. Women simply don't understand physical pain. They are master's of dealing the far more damaging and more permanent kind of pain, so I guess they just don't need it in their arsenal, and hope to remove it from ours. %#!@*&

(What's that? How did you know I got blind-sided by the love of my life recently? You psychic?)

30 posted on 03/23/2011 11:39:53 PM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: Impy

I hear they are also passing a rule that players legs will be connected by a two foot piece of line in order to prevent injuries from high speed tackles.


31 posted on 03/23/2011 11:40:14 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: Teacher317
(See, it's happening to me already... Instead of "rugby", it's ruby already! Aiiigh!!)
32 posted on 03/23/2011 11:42:11 PM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: McCloud-Strife

++++ The under lying reason is to be able to add more commercials.......It will increase revenue and downtime, in my opinion more boring ++++

And this household is done with college basketball hype for this reason also.


33 posted on 03/23/2011 11:46:52 PM PDT by Varsity Flight
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To: Huck

I’m surprised they don’t do that.

1. A guy could really hurt his toe kicking that hard football
2. People running down the field to cover, could trip
3. The referees could injure their necks if the players go by too fast
4. If the players build up too much speed running, they could get nasty carpet burns when they fall
5. Imagine what all that speed means if a player goes out of bounds and collides with someone

While we’re at it, they should probably limit how far the wide receiver can go down field for a pass too

Once these things are instituted, I’d like to see the teams develop kilts to play in, instead of those idiotic uniforms with all the pads. If they need the pads, they’re not going it right.

Some make-up would probably help too. If we’re going to sissify the game, who not go all the way.


34 posted on 03/23/2011 11:59:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The only thing higher than Obama's chin, is his ass facing West five times a day.)
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To: Impy
The league implemented the rule because it found a higher incidence of collision injuries, specifically concussions, on kickoffs.

I think that's just due to the normal fighting slaves do amongst themselves.

35 posted on 03/24/2011 12:45:31 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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To: Professional

How many NFL players don’t make it past 3 years in the league due to injury and how many because they play one year and then fail to make a team? The better players seem to have plenty long careers to me. I more than half suspect that shortened career stat is a union contrivance and not one of legitimate injury.
As to how many players grew up within 300 miles i have to ask what sort of question is that? The discussion is NFL not college. Why pick 300?
If PEDS are your concern then you can quit watching football as i stopped watching baseball a decade ago.
Are the refs on the up and up? What does that have to do with anything? Is that a serious question when comparing the merits of 2 sports?
I don’t wish to pick on you but you see most of your response added nothing to the conversation and seems to have more to do with your hangups over YOUR local team than anything else.


36 posted on 03/24/2011 1:47:02 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Impy

Replace the kickoff with a punt from the 40. Allow fair catches. This would still be fun but not have the two teams running into each other full speed. More turnovers. On a kickoff if you bobble the ball, you’re OK. On a punt, you’re in trouble.


37 posted on 03/24/2011 2:39:26 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: Impy

I call this the ‘Jeff Reid’ rule. He just had a career extension.


38 posted on 03/24/2011 2:53:24 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Years ago, they kicked off from the 40 yard line. There were so many touchbacks that they moved the kickoff back to the 35, then the 30, to encourage kickoff returns.

Now they are going in the opposite direction,

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Just more regressiveLeftwomensLib thought processing turning this once Great Country into one that elects odumbi as President. Football is going to be replaced by a tougher sport. Hint. Blacks better learn how to skate. Hockey is going to do to Football what UFC did to boxing.


39 posted on 03/24/2011 2:57:11 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Impy

Touchbacks are a drag on game momentum. They’re better off doing away with the kickoff.


40 posted on 03/24/2011 3:06:44 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama: nobel peace prize winner, warmonger, golfer.)
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To: Impy

Touchbacks are a drag on game momentum. They’re better off doing away with the kickoff.


41 posted on 03/24/2011 3:06:44 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama: nobel peace prize winner, warmonger, golfer.)
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To: Impy
Just placing the ball at the 20 would eliminate the onsides kick. That would be a loss. Comebacks would be kneecapped.

The kickoff returns have always been dangerous, hence the term "suicide squad". However, today's players are at least as fast and much, much bigger.

I think touchbacks and returns should yield the same number of commercials, one each.

42 posted on 03/24/2011 3:59:15 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: Impy

If the NFL wants to increase the length of the season to 18 games and reduce the amount of injuries on special teams they should eliminate the kickoff (team gets the ball on the 20 yard line) and allow punt coverage team to go downfield as soon as the ball is snapped (instead of waiting until its punted).

Punt and kickoff coverage is where most of the injuries occur and the NFL would be wise to eliminate those plays. Then teams could carry more scrimmage players on their rosters instead of loading up on gunners and kick return specialists.


43 posted on 03/24/2011 4:35:24 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: Impy

I’d much rather see the kickoffs to be from the 25 yard line! That would allow the receiving team to field the ball more often outside of their endzone and increase the opportunities for exciting returns, muffs, fumbles, etc.

The players on the kick coverage team would be just as gassed as they are now, after running so far down field. It would eliminate all of the boring touchbacks that occur because today’s kickers are so good at kicking the ball that far. .......It would also significantly increase fan interest in kickoffs, and it’s the fans that pay the bills.

Want some rule changes? Limit timeouts in college and NBA basketball games to only THREE in the last three minutes of a game! It’s ridiculous to watch the final five minutes of a basketball game take about 25 minutes to play.


44 posted on 03/24/2011 4:44:17 AM PDT by octex
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To: NRG1973
Just placing the ball at the 20 would eliminate the onsides kick.

Thats another good reason to place the ball at the 20 yard line. Onside kicks are a waste of precious air time and are among the reason that NFL games more than 3 hours. If a team is hopelessly behind in the last 2 minutes there would be less reason to waste their timeouts and delay the telecast. It would actually be nice to see more game end in 3 hours or less so viewers wouldn't miss the start of the second game of the double-header.

45 posted on 03/24/2011 4:44:52 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: octex
Want some rule changes? Limit timeouts in college and NBA basketball games to only THREE in the last three minutes of a game! It’s ridiculous to watch the final five minutes of a basketball game take about 25 minutes to play.

Amen!!!

46 posted on 03/24/2011 4:46:52 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: dfwgator
The NFL should implement the “Rouge”, 1-point for touchbacks.

Excellent idea

47 posted on 03/24/2011 4:54:36 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: Always Independent

Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever. ;-)


48 posted on 03/24/2011 4:55:50 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Impy

I’m not a fan of the NFL so I don’t really care. I watched two games this past year, both times while visiting with friends. I saw Jets-Pats playoff game and the Super Bowl. My lasting impression was that the league is completely infested with unsportsmanlike showboaters who dance and taunt after even the most routine plays. I found it quite disgusting,and impossible to care about the outcome.


49 posted on 03/24/2011 5:04:51 AM PDT by Huck (Fools make feasts and wise men eat them - Poor Richard)
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To: Huck

NFL should stand for Not For Long....


50 posted on 03/24/2011 5:11:59 AM PDT by mewzilla (Were members of both political parties in on the Lockerbie bomber deal?)
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