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A positive development, but I'm not sure how much and how soon this will help Tepco.
1 posted on 03/17/2011 11:01:05 AM PDT by socialism_stinX
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Except they aren’t going to connect it until tomorrow. A lot can happen between now and tomorrow.

O’Hare and DFW airports are already reporting that Japanese passengers and luggage have radiation levels. It’s also in the planes’ air systems.


2 posted on 03/17/2011 11:03:51 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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New Power Line Installed At Fukushima Daiichi Plant: Govt

Great, just how much copper was mined for these cables and how much of a carbon footprint was created by their formation? I hope this conforms to all international green-energy codes and such. I'm telling Al Gore right now.

3 posted on 03/17/2011 11:05:01 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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“A positive development, but I’m not sure how much and how soon this will help Tepco.”

If they restore power to the reactors, the Chicken Littles will have to just sit down and shut up.

There has been no significant leak of radiation, no one has died, and no one will.


6 posted on 03/17/2011 11:10:31 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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Hopefully the pumps are functional after the explosions and there is water for them to pump.


9 posted on 03/17/2011 11:14:08 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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Quick, someone go tell that maroon Shep Smith. He just said there isn’t any new power line to plants. How he would know, I don’t know since he is in Tokyo.


11 posted on 03/17/2011 11:15:21 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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Details, details. Look what is being hooked up, building for reactor #2. Number 2 building is LEAST damaged of #1, #2, or #3. #3 and #4 are the main concerns and the damage to those may be too severe to repair even if they have electricity. If pumps, wiring, controls, etc were damaged by explosion, the only way to fix would be for a technician to go in and repair. That is not possible with the high levels of radiation in #3 and #4


15 posted on 03/17/2011 11:21:20 AM PDT by milwguy
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They think the electrical system at number 2 is in good enough shape to be able to get some equipement working there, but still some difficulties routing the electricity.

High voltage lines? Not exactly like twisting wires together with electrical tape.


17 posted on 03/17/2011 11:24:50 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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Just a few observations:

1. Japan has done a stunningly bad job communicating, both at the company level and at the governmental level. The result is that NO ONE in the general public really knows what the situation is, what has been done to contain it, or what realistic expectations of the future might be.

2. The Japanese government, and Tepco, are clearly trying to downplay the potential danger. Perhaps the poor communications have been an intentional part of this, or perhaps they are just REALLY bad at communicating. Regardless, the result is that their credibility has become suspect.

3. Many nations are now advising their nationals to leave the immediate area, and some are even advising leaving Japan altogether. They would not be doing this if they felt the risk is low.

4. Some high profile outsiders are claiming the situation is not what the Japanese have claimed. Some pretty incendiary claims have been made, including the claim by the head of the U.S. NRC that the fuel storage ponds at at least one (two?) of the reactors is dry. The U.S. has refused to back down on this claim, and the Japanese have flatly refuted it. They can’t both be right.

5. The Obama appointed head of the U.S. NRC has a carefully scrubbed Internet profile, but we know he is heavily anti-nuclear (for instance, he was a key player in blocking nuclear waste disposal in Nevada). It is entirely possible that his personal biases have influenced his public statements. If so, I hope someone in the Obama administration wakes up enough to realize the things he is saying will damage U.S./Japan relations in the future (assuming they even care).

6. Side Note: High profile disagreement at the national level should not be happening, especially between the U.S. and Japan. A competent administration would not let this happen. We should shut up if we disagree, at least for now. This is not the time for the U.S. government to cast public doubt on the actions of the Japanese government, even if we think they are screwing up.

7. I certainly hope the Japanese have been doing a lot of things they have simply failed to communicate to the public. In particular, I would like to think restoring access to outside power will help, but I must admit I am very skeptical that this will help on anything other than reactors 5 and 6.

8. I also have a general question related to outside power: If the problem all along has been lack of outside power, then why weren’t generators, fuel, and enough manpower to get them going airlifted in days ago?

8a. The cooling systems on reactors 5 and 6 are currently being run by an outside generator. Details are hard to come by, but apparently this generator was brought in after the Tsunami wiped out all the generators originally on site. If they could bring in one, why not more?

8b. If they failed to bring in enough generators days ago because no one asked for them, or the request was denied, then incompetence reins supreme at multiple levels. Unfortunately, given how poor communications have been, you have to wonder if this might actually be the reason...

8c. Perhaps generators were not brought in due to incompetence, but there really is enough intact equipment left to actually bring this thing under control if only power were available. If so, then there may be a shot at bringing this thing under control “soon”, once outside power is available.

8d. If it was not incompetence then perhaps they failed to bring in more generators because they did not think they would do any good. If so, then I fail to see how hooking up to outside power will do much good now either (other than stabilizing power to reactors 5 and 6).


19 posted on 03/17/2011 11:27:40 AM PDT by EternalHope (You can't make a deal with the Devil, or reach across the aisle to Obama.)
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Why didn’t Hueys fly in some replacement generators five days ago. They could have borrowed big units from local ski resorts, and hooked them up in an hour.


27 posted on 03/17/2011 11:36:17 AM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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After several explosions and fires, what makes them think the pumps still work?


36 posted on 03/17/2011 11:47:51 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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Sounds more like they need to run a garden hose out there more than a power line.


47 posted on 03/17/2011 12:08:46 PM PDT by PLMerite (Thanks for fixing the clock.)
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Our media can say what they will about the Japanese response, but there have been a lot of unsung heroes fighting these fires, installing the power lines and whatever else it takes to get the cooling systems working again. Heroes much like the Firefighters climbing the steps of the World Trade Center, knowing that they could be sacrificing their lives to save their countrymen. These Japanese workers know they face a huge chance of being exposed to a deadly or debilitating level of radiation – yet they go.


49 posted on 03/17/2011 12:12:14 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: socialism_stinX
A fellow by the name of Neil Armstrong once said:

That's one small step for man, one giant leap forward for mankind.

A baby starts out crawling, then walking, and eventually running.

Cherynobyl very early on had the roof of the containment building on fire and the graphite in the core on fire.

Of course, if you think like Chicken Little and Al Gore, I might have some kitten graphics for you...

50 posted on 03/17/2011 12:12:14 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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It’s the continual uncontrolled releases of contaminated steam, contaminated with radioactive particles, that will add up overtime unless they are controlled.

Everything that comes in contact with the area will be contaminated and have to be dealt with as nuclear waste i.e. garden hose, cables, generators, water, saltwater, firetrucks, etc.

I watched three nuke experts interviewed, one domestic and two aboard, and none of them could believe or understand why the spent fuel rods were/are stored on top of the reactors. One guess was that it was a cost saving measure for the operator. There is absolutely no containment possible with exposed spent fuel rods after the water is gone esp. if during an explosion they are ejected throughout the plant.

Obviously, some of the reactors are non-functional due to damage so electrical power is not going to help. Cooling down the waste is the only goal so it can be safely handled and contained and accomplishing that aim is a monumental task at this point.


62 posted on 03/17/2011 12:52:38 PM PDT by Razzz42
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When I read this yesterday it seemed that the bottom has been reached, they are now in a position to stop the most serious meltdowns and regain some small amount of control over the worst.

Hooking up electrical systems and mechanical pumps etal is a core competency of these guys. If they have power, it will take a few days, but by Monday this will start to fall off the front page. When the chance of a meltdown diminishes, the MSM will lose interest in a hurry.

I hope so.

schu

77 posted on 03/17/2011 2:49:44 PM PDT by schu
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2690314/posts

For all to view...post 17 ...

Perspective...some real perspective is needed to understand what they are facing. It’s not like they can just get on the road with supplies or pull into a port chuck full of debris and human bodies or even use the Sendai airport...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm


84 posted on 03/17/2011 4:29:44 PM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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An answered prayer.

May God bring them comfort and continued strength.


98 posted on 03/18/2011 4:36:06 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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